Help wiring up four lights to a switch in the loft please?

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RandumIan

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Hi,

I have bought myself 50m of 1mm T&E, four angled bulb holders and a switch. I would like to wire this up so that the switch will turn on the four bulbs.

I have also bought a 20 amp four terminal junction box with which I was hoping to tap into the lighting circuit for upstairs and get a power feed. I am just wanting a bit of advice on the best way to wire my lights in please?

Cheers, Ian.

 
Randum

Welcome to the forum

I take it you are a diyer ?????

the advice i can give is for you to tell us your location and one of us come and quote you for doing it.

I do not intend to be rude but most of us cannot condone someone with little or no experience doing this kind of work..

good fair quotes will be given by the members

Welcome to the forum

 
Hello RandumIan welcome to the forum. You will need to first of all ensure that any circuit you want to extend is capable of taking any additional load. That all correct earthing and bonding is in place and the protection measures at the fuse box are satisfactory for the size of cable you are using. These are basics to reduce the risk of overheating prevention of fires or electric shock. Most electricians would probably do continuity checks of the CPC, polarity checks and insulation resistance test on the existing circuit. Checking the Zs and any RCD operation after any alterations have been done. The actual wiring of lighting would be the basic circuit of live supply to switch, from switch to a load, (lamps), from load back to neutral. Including any appropriate sleeves for Earth or switched lives. you may need to add a harmonised dual colour codes label as well. The test results for this work would probably be covered by a minor works certificate. I think that covers most of the key points. Are you a college student RandumIan and do you have access to an adequate test meter? If any of the above sound to complex, you are probably best employing a qualified electrician as Theoryspark suggested.

Doc H.

 
If you are determined to do it yourself it's a straightforward job, assuming that the installation can handle it. Is your consumer unit (fuse board) the old style with fuse wire or the newer style with flip switches? I assume the wiring is in flat white or grey twin and earth (modern cable). If the installation is very old then don't touch it.

To go further you need to TURN OFF THE ELECTRICITY! Turn it all off should you mess up and accidentally cut into a circuit you haven't isolated. CHECK THE CABLE IS DEAD - use a non-contact voltmeter or even a neon screwdriver, but always check you are not about to cut next doors live cable in your loft! Be sure that you have found the lighting circuit and make sure you have found a part with a permanent live and neutral as if you tap off a switch drop you won't get the desired effect!

Cut the lighting circuit, strip back and install the junction box, make sure that you use some earth sleeving on the bare earth wire. The simplest way if your wire is ok to go from the JB to the switch then on to the lights is to loop at the switch. In the JB you basically connect all three lives (brown/red) in 1 terminal, all the neutrals (blue or black) in another and all the earths (green & yellow) in the third. One terminal remains empty.

Take this wire to the switch and cut it. Join the neutral from the feed in to the lights out together using a push fit or a piece of connector strip. Take 1 live terminal to one terminal in the switch and the second live to the other. Connect the earth in the 'parking space' in the back box. Then run from the first light, to the second etc.

To be sure you have continuity use some spare T&E to ensure continuity of all wires from the JB to the last light - you can use a simple continuity meter or even improvise using a torch and completing the circuit with the wires. A simple multimeter is invaluable.

 
Hi RandumIan,

Does that make any sense ? sounds like you have bought all the correct materials. The guys do have a point though about the circuit being able to carry the additional load. Do you have circuits marked for lighting circuits up and one for lighting circuits down ? Would then be a simple case of counting your lamps and adding up their wattages. 10 lamps at 100W equals 1000W that sort of thing. Normally 1000w used to be about 4 Amps. Lighting circuits normally 5A or 6A mcb.

If in doubt come back on or call someone qualified.

Tony

 
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