Looking Into Buying Solar Panels

[Sharpend]

Essex it's not the fact that the worlds climate changes we all accept that there's been an ice age etc, it's the rate of change that is the concern, and this is accelerated by the way the human uses the earth. When you thrash down the road and get your speeding ticket remember you've pumped twice the pollutant into the air.

 

[Essex1]

Essex it's not the fact that the worlds climate changes we all accept that there's been an ice age etc, it's the rate of change that is the concern, and this is accelerated by the way the human uses the earth. When you thrash down the road and get your speeding ticket remember you've pumped twice the pollutant into the air.

But it is a 5.0ltr V8. You just cannot drive it without thrashing it.

 

[binky]

In climate terms, blasting down the orad in a V8 is about where we are.

An interesting argument from Arnie....

http://www.knowable.com/a/arnold-schwarzenegger-just-blew-everyone-away-with-this-post-on-fb-wow

 

[Andy™]

In climate terms, blasting down the orad in a V8 is about where we are.

An interesting argument from Arnie....

http://www.knowable.com/a/arnold-schwarzenegger-just-blew-everyone-away-with-this-post-on-fb-wow

cant copy text form article, but there is one massive flaw in his argument about the rooms. the electric car gets its power elsewhere... often from dino fuels... so really, he might as well say the first room with the petrol engine is running, but its engine is outside the room... so really, both rooms would be either safe or deadly...

and since a lot of electric cars are charged overnight when there is no sun for the solar panels....

 

[Sharpend]

But it is a 5.0ltr V8. You just cannot drive it without thrashing it.

You have to learn that if it's a 5.0l V8, then people will know what it can do, so you don't need to show off what it can do, the art of having that power is knowing when to use it and when to refrain.

 

[Essex1]

In climate terms, blasting down the orad in a V8 is about where we are.

An interesting argument from Arnie....

http://www.knowable.com/a/arnold-schwarzenegger-just-blew-everyone-away-with-this-post-on-fb-wow

I once saw a program that explained the life line of the Earth like this:

If the life time of the planet was represented by a piano. The entire time humans have been present on the planet can be represented by half of one key. Humans have been present for about 6,000,000 years. Climate change experts are measuring the rate of climate change over the last 50 years. In some cases only the last 15 years. That would be the equivalent of a human hair on a piano. The human race as a species is so insignificant it is embarrassing. To say we can even contemplate changing anything is completely beyond acceptable.

You have to learn that if it's a 5.0l V8, then people will know what it can do, so you don't need to show off what it can do, the art of having that power is knowing when to use it and when to refrain.

That is the beauty. You would have no clue to look at it.

 

[Sharpend]

Well Essex I've got to hand it too you, your logic bewilders me.

The only intelligent life on the planet that can deliberately change the environment around them and you think they're insignificant?

 

[binky]

 To say we can even contemplate changing anything is completely beyond acceptable.

Ok so we don'thave nuclear weapons? We didn't invent DDT, we aren't chopping down the rainforest? The Russinas didn't destrot huge tracks of arable farming land by raising the salt water table? We didn't have acid rain? The fish aren't running out in the sea? We didn't invent medicines which have allowed a huge expansion of population and living to a ripe old age? The UK was never covered by forest until we chopped it down? The Dutch didn't create about half their country by reclaiming land? We didn't destroy our rivers and poison lots of land during the indutrial revolution (same as China is doing now). WE didn't create the 'dust bowl' in the USA removing huge tracks of top-soil from over intensive farming? We aren't poisoning parts of the Great Barrier Reef with fertilisers washing off the land?

We mostly certainly can and do influence the earth, and the weather by upsetting the natural order of things. Sometimes we improve stuff, but that has been a more recent trend and quite minimal.

 

[Essex1]

As I said. All these things can be stopped and will reverse the process. What I do not subscribe to is the global warming arguement. Now taking care of our planet because it is the responsible thing to do is of course the right thiing to do. But we also have 795,000,000 people on this planet with not enough food to sustain themselves. An estimated 3,100,000 children under 5 die everybyear due to starvation. Kind of puts Arnie's 90,000 into perspective doesn't it?

 

[binky]

so if you want to save the people, better stop global warming. As the weather patterns change it will increasingly mean droughts in dry areas and wetter wet areas, like the Lake District. This in turn will destroy food production in many countries (check out Mongolia and droughts in USA).

Of course if you live in wealthy country like the UK, you won't starve becuse we have the money to buy what food is available, so you can sit on the sofa stuffing a cheese crust pizza before feeding half of it to the dog and watching the poor people on the TV die.

This might help sort out over population :innocent  

 

[Essex1]

I am not going to pretend that I have the answers to save the millions of children that die of hunger. I would not dare insult them.

A few years back there were hose pipe bans because of years of lack of rain - we were told global warming caused that.

Then we had some bad snow - global warming caused that.

Then we had a heat wave - global warming caused that.

Now we have lots of rain - guess what? Global warming is causing that.

every slight bit of weather we have it is down to global warming. It is funny.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/52Mx0_8YEtg?feature=oembed