moving an ccu

[paul b b]

Hello Chaps,

A guy stopped me as i was coming out of the wholesalers and asked me if i could do a job for him (not seen it yet) he said that he wanted his ccu moved (not sure how far), But what is the best way of getting the cable to the new location? inline crimp? junct box?

thanks

paul

 

[Andy™]

inline crimp can be plastered over. just make sure sure both new and old cable run is in permitted area, and circuit is RCD'd if its buried

 

[paul b b]

inline crimp can be plastered over. just make sure sure both new and old cable run is in permitted area, and circuit is RCD'd if its buried

Thanks Andy!

he will need a new ccu so will be RCD'd.

Bit of a funny one though, E.on are going to move his supply from 1 side of the house to the other (reson unknown), but they want him to prove to them that his current instillation us up to scratch I.E perodic inspection before the move it, and then he can have a new ccu.

on that note, i cant do perodic ins, if i fit a new ccu in the exsisting place, will the tests from that be ok with them? as i will have to do the full range for a ccu change.

Or is it best to get someone else to do the perodic?

thanks for your views

paul

 

[wozz]

Are you a member of a scheme? EDF require you to be or will ignore your certs.

 

[green-hornet]

Any competant person can do a PIR.

Strange that the company would ask, in my experiance since the dissolvement of the regitered persons scheme they dont give a damn about what they connect to.

Regitered persons scheme I refer to is the one where we used to be allowed to cut seals and reseal on temp basis but it was ebolished when part P came out.

Just do a pir and leave it with them.

Most cables can be extended by crimp fitting or just place an adaptable box where the original cu was and use the wago type connectors, which are maintenance free and can be left if in a position where it could be hard to inspect.

 

[Andy™]

Thanks Andy!he will need a new ccu so will be RCD'd.

Bit of a funny one though, E.on are going to move his supply from 1 side of the house to the other (reson unknown), but they want him to prove to them that his current instillation us up to scratch I.E perodic inspection before the move it, and then he can have a new ccu.

on that note, i cant do perodic ins, if i fit a new ccu in the exsisting place, will the tests from that be ok with them? as i will have to do the full range for a ccu change.

Or is it best to get someone else to do the perodic?

thanks for your views

paul

if they want to move the supply, id be telling them to sort the PIR otherwise, its in no worse condition than when they arrived so they can re-connect it

Why cant you do the PIR?

 

[Apache]

just make sure sure both new and old cable run is RCD'd if its buried

he will need a new ccu so will be RCD'd.

Think you may have missed the point Andy was trying to make. If any of the cables supplying the new CU are buried they would need RCD.

Or I could have read it wrong....

 

[ianmacd]

Think you may have missed the point Andy was trying to make. If any of the cables supplying the new CU are buried they would need RCD.Or I could have read it wrong....

I think thats what Andy was saying yes but the OP said the DNO will move head.

Ian.

 

[paul b b]

thanks for you views guys,

i am waiting for my elecsa esessment (not for about 6 weeks, the guy is in no rush) i just wanted to confirm a few things before i go to see him.

I only have bs7671 and part P so as far as i am aware I cannot do a PIR, is this correct?

thanks fo all your hepful advice

paul

 

[Andy™]

thanks for you views guys,i am waiting for my elecsa esessment (not for about 6 weeks, the guy is in no rush) i just wanted to confirm a few things before i go to see him.

I only have bs7671 and part P so as far as i am aware I cannot do a PIR, is this correct?

thanks fo all your hepful advice

paul

see the numerous threads about this. you only need to be competent. also, part p has nothing to do with PIR's - some scams will tell you that you need another assessment & payment to carry out PIR's, but this is only so you can use their forms. there is nothing to stop you using your own and getting on with the job

 

[Theorysparky]

Paul

This is how i see it.....

you are replacing a cu which requires you to test all the ccts,bonding etc

thats half the PIR covered

but while you go round the house looking for those sockets etc you are also looking for potential problems which you will possibly need to fix to allow you to issue cert.

only thing you need to worry about is the codings

PIR is 80% EIC

 

[Theorysparky]

see the numerous threads about this. you only need to be competent. also, part p has nothing to do with PIR's - some scams will tell you that you need another assessment & payment to carry out PIR's, but this is only so you can use their forms. there is nothing to stop you using your own and getting on with the job

After attending an Elecsa seminar this week they were saying that PIRs will eventually become assessed every 3 years and that you will need at least 2 years experience sparkying before you can carry them out

this is the rumour...

 

[Andy™]

After attending an Elecsa seminar this week they were saying that PIRs will eventually become assessed every 3 years and that you will need at least 2 years experience sparkying before you can carry them outthis is the rumour...

probably them getting prepared to tell you that you must be registered and cant do PIR's unless you are. if it did change so you had to be registered, i wouldnt bother. i dont do that many anyway. and im sure there would be plenty others who would stop doing them

 

[wozz]

my point got missed, depending on who the DNO are they may want you to belong to a competent person scheme. The EDF (or their contractors) will not accept and therefore refuse to start to move a supply without your cert and membership number.

 

[paul b b]

thanks chaps,

 

[NJM Electrical]

I can`t see why EDF have the right to ask for any inspection. They are supplying the supply and thats all. Anything after that is down to the consumer.

 

[batty]

I can`t see why EDF have the right to ask for any inspection. They are supplying the supply and thats all. Anything after that is down to the consumer.

Because if anything went wrong they are worried that they could be sued.

Batty

 

[wozz]

in some of their paperwork im sure it quotes parts of the EASQR or whatever its called.

 

[Andy™]

I can`t see why EDF have the right to ask for any inspection. They are supplying the supply and thats all. Anything after that is down to the consumer.

because they have a right to disconnect a supply if wiring is dangerous under ESQCR