Notification

[safedepth]

Evening all,

Started a largeish loft convrsion job this week, leccy only. Am I right in thinking that since the whole project is being notified to LABC I will only need to issue cert's on completion and not notify? BC will be all over the job from day 1 probably.

Many thanks.

 

[batty]

Are you putting new circuits in?

 

[Andy™]

depends what the planning permission includes - if it covers electrical, then they will have to I&T, but they may accept your cert. something you would have to ask them about

if it doesnt include electrical, then you would have to notify LABC seperate, or notify your scam provider

but if your already scam reg'd, save yourself the hassle and notify them

 

[safedepth]

Yes, new circuits etc. I'm happy to notify if necessary, just didn't know what the norm was. We notify building control if the job requires it and this one will require it but we are surely only informing of the works and satisfactory testing etc. The BCO should be "inspecting" my install at various stages in the same way he will the builders work. Or am I talking out of my ar-e?

 

[Evans Electric]

Hi Safedepth, you have to certify anyway and I see you are NIC , so register the job with them , give certificate to whoever ordered the work, thats it .

Just read your 2nd post and yes you do seem to have mastered the fine art of rectal speaking.

As you are NICEIC the building inspector only needs to see the cert at the end , he won't be qualified to inspect the electrics anyway.

 

[batty]

Do the work and part p cert at the end of it.

 

[safedepth]

Hi Safedepth, you have to certify anyway and I see you are NIC , so register the job with them , give certificate to whoever ordered the work, thats it .Just read your 2nd post and yes you do seem to have mastered the fine art of rectal speaking.

As you are NICEIC the building inspector only needs to see the cert at the end , he won't be qualified to inspect the electrics anyway.

Hi Mr Evans,

I appreciate he is unlikely to know what he looking at but is he not expected to inspect all aspects of a build during the process? The BCO fee is supposed to cover all inspection costs. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to avoid the notification fee, it's just that this is my first job where BC have been involved in other aspects. Up to now it's all been electrical work only, the normal house bashing type stuff. I simply didn't know what normally happened.

As for rectal speaking, I'm currently teaching it to sing too! The halitosos is a problem though! :coat

 

[sparkytim]

As you are registerd then BC will have NO interest IN THE ELECTRICS.

You are certifing as compliant to 7671 AND notifying for Part P

On start of job BC will have asked if Sparks is Registered if so they have NO involvement in electrics, YOU do all that for them.

 

[Evans Electric]

First thing, its Deke not Mr Evans , A teacher I am not .

I think you are missing the point of the dreaded Part P. As a NIC Domestic Installer you can self certify your own work , because you have been deemed to be a " Competent Person" as defined under the scheme .

There is no fee to pay to LBC for the electrics , they have to accept your cert .

So the Building inspector doesn't even need to speak to you , I presume you are working for a builder on this job , you give the cert to him to sort out , but remember to register the job online with NIC for a couple of quid.

Deke

 

[sellers]

If your work doesn't fall under the part p scheme then you do not need to notify or even be registered.

Even if the whole job is under building control, if the work isn't under part p any competent person can do it, but you obviously need to test and cert all work.

 

[Andy™]

i think he was hoping to avoid self cert and save a few quid, and get LABC to take his cert and then sign it off...

 

[batty]

I am getting very confused with this is safedepth registered to sign his work of or not?

 

[sellers]

Only work under the part p scheme needs notifying to BC, so if no work is under part p then complete the work and give certs to the customer.

No need to be registered, no need to notify and no need to pay LABC any monies.

As long as you are competent

 

[m4tty]

He must be if he's NIC Reg'd yeahut the kettle on

 

[safedepth]

Sorry all, been in the bath.

One at a time.

Sorry Deke, Yeh it's for a builder although I know the customer better. He's actually my cricket captain so even better reason to keep him happy!

Sellers, it's all Part P, I'll be notifying, now I've been educated.

Andy, No I was simply unsure of which way I had to go. I was always going to certify and sign but mistakenly believed the notification was to inform BC of the the works. In this case BC are already aware as they have been paid to inspect the builders work.

Batty, Yes!

Cheers all,

every day we should strive to learn something new!

 

[NozSpark]

I had one like this a few years ago..

I did all the electrical installation, tested, provided certs and notified..

BC asked for a copy of the EIC, I told him to "do one" as I had self certed the work - I did give him a copy of the notification receipt though and didn't hear anything more!

 

[safedepth]

Noz,

This where I'm confused, I am expecting BC to want to see the cert's and would be happy to provide. The originals will go to the customer, (home owner, not builder as I'm subb'ed in by him directly on this). Would i be wrong to do this?

Fitz

 

[Andy™]

Noz,This where I'm confused, I am expecting BC to want to see the cert's and would be happy to provide. The originals will go to the customer, (home owner, not builder as I'm subb'ed in by him directly on this). Would i be wrong to do this?

Fitz

you provide cert to customer, and keep a copy. if LABC wants to see it, then i would have no problem with that, but if he wants a copy, it will be upto him to get it copied.

 

[safedepth]

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[NozSpark]

TBH it was just me being awkward...if he'd pressed I'd have given him a copy, but it was several months after I had completed the work and I'd notified it anyway.