Please help, again.

[Steviec57]

Hi,

I've been changing a few light fittings in our house in my spare time, and have done a few so far, with the instructions that you guys gave me a couple of weeks ago. I've just come up against another problem now though. The colours of these wires are different and there is a wire less than in the others! (see the attached photo).

It is in the kitchen where I've already done one at the other end of the room with an extra wire and no yellow one!



Please help again, guys.

Cheers

Steve.

 

[m4tty]

Is there an extractor fan in the kitchen or 2 way switching ?

 

[NozSpark]

I could guess, but then again I could easily be wrong.

You should really be taking note of which wires go where before you dismantle it.

TBH you're going to have to remove (not disconnect) the switch front to see what wire does what.

 

[Steviec57]

Yeah there is a switch for that particular light at each door (2 doors)

 

[NozSpark]

Steve,

Please remove the switches and take more photos

 

[sparkytim]

ALLWAYS make a note BEFORE you disconnect

 

[Steviec57]

The first two photos are by the back door. The switch in question is the one closest to the camera, the other one is for an outside light.

The 3rd photo is by the other door.View attachment 3351View attachment 3352View attachment 3353

 

[NozSpark]

ALLWAYS make a note BEFORE you disconnect

You'd have thought that he'd learn't that after the first time,,, but hey, we're here to help

 

[Steviec57]

As I said, I'd done a few that were all the same but just disconnected this one as if it was the same as the others. Hey, if I wasn't daft, you'd have nothing to do on a bank holiday Monday.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Post #3 on your previous thread...

http://www.talk.electricianforum.co.uk/do-yourself-diy-electrical-forum-electrics/19763-please-help.html

For anyone reading this thread, the important thing is to look at the wiring BEFORE you remove the old light fitting and draw a diagram of how the old fitting is wired. If in doubt, label the wires in some way so you know which is which.

I can only guess you didn't like the previous advice as you ignored THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE!!!! headbang

Without a meter to test the wires... and/or opening up some other accessories to trace the cables out...

They could be anything...

the yellow & blues may be lives or neutrals...

I guess the red is probably a live....

But thats not always the case!!!

Attachments not working for me to see?

:C

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re-post switch pictures... ray

 

[Steviec57]

View attachment 3354View attachment 3355View attachment 3356

Taken a while as they wouldn't upload. Hope you can see them now.

 

[NozSpark]

Still no worky

 

[Steviec57]

View attachment 3357View attachment 3358View attachment 3359

I've shrunk them, maybe these will open properly

 

[alpha spark]

All invalid attachments it says contact admin

 

[Steviec57]

I've uploaded them all the same as the first one, dunno what's happening??

 

[alpha spark]

My guess and it's only a guss without the photos they've used the 3 core to the switch red as perm live yellow as switch live return and blue as neutral to switch they they then have took a twin from switch to outside light ive seen it done on a few occasions

Is the red yellow blue all at the light switch

 

[Manator]

See if these work

 

[Steviec57]

One more try...



Fingers crossed. Does this work?

 

[Manator]

For some reason the other attachments worked for me and I have duplicated them above.

 

[alpha spark]

Put your yellow out of 3 core with red from twin and earth in loop connector put your blue from 3core with black from twin and put the last red from 3 core in live