pricing for PIR's

[rugbymacc]

I've got a chance of being put forward by a local insurance brokers as their approved Test and Inspector for commerical + industrial.

but here's the issue......

They want a discounted rate for this !!!

Now i know that every job will be different, so pricing per job is the best way.

So I'm not going to sell myself short, but would like to know whats an average day rate for T/I these sorts of premises.

Worked with a mate who was charging

 

[Zeespark]

C/I

 

[wozz]

is this because there has been an incident or because the premises have no records of inspection?

 

[rugbymacc]

is this because there has been an incident or because the premises have no records of inspection?

believe its due to the insurance companies cracking down and now wanting records of inspections.

 

[m4tty]

I used to underwrite motor trade insurance for nig over ten years ago and all quotes were subject to survey and the survey requirements were a pir by a niceic approved contractor every three years on commercial premises. If they were going to insure the premises they wanted to know the electrics were in order. And the amount of policies that were being cancelled because the owners didn't want to pay to get the electrics up to scratch was immense. These people just don't care and the insurance companies are doing us a favour really getting us more business.

 

[wozz]

ah i see, if it was after a incident there may have been more work to do!

how have any idea of how much work they are likely to put your way?

 

[NozSpark]

I would think what they're actually after is some scope to mark up your price and make a bit for themselves

 

[rugbymacc]

I would think what they're actually after is some scope to mark up your price and make a bit for themselves

thats what i believe too

 

[m4tty]

+3

 

[green-hornet]

I have just done an industrial unit in all it took 4 days to do all the various db,s My invoice was for

 

[rugbymacc]

very true GH

Thats the very reason i'm asking the going day rate for commercial T/I.

 

[Voltimax]

I see you're a Napit member. Napit suggest you allow 3/4 of an hour per circuit when conducting a PIR

 

[green-hornet]

I see you're a Napit member. Napit suggest you allow 3/4 of an hour per circuit when conducting a PIR

To be honest 3/4 of an hour is a fair allowance if you do all the tests properly.

For once I am in agreement with Napit

 

[Sidewinder]

Voltimax,

Surely that is for domestic, I've worked on circuits it would take that long to walk from the origin to the load!

 

[green-hornet]

Voltimax,Surely that is for domestic, I've worked on circuits it would take that long to walk from the origin to the load!

Yeah but some of us use golf Karts cause we are posh.

 

[Sidewinder]

Sorry mate not allowed!

 

[Voltimax]

Voltimax,Surely that is for domestic, I've worked on circuits it would take that long to walk from the origin to the load!

Yeah my bad, should have read the original post fully instead of speed reading. Not doing very well tonight, should get an early night. To be honest when this came up Napit didn't specify, but I would imagine they were thinking domestic.

 

[kme]

I ALWAYS want to go and see the premises before I give a price - for a number of reasons:

1. You get an idea of the on-site travelling, a la sidewinder`s comment.

2. You also get a vague idea of the general condition of the install, by seeing the main intake. It isn`t guaranteed, but it is a good indicator.

3. You meet the owner/tenant, and can suss out how helpful (or not) they`ll be.

THEN you`ve got a better idea how long. My hourly rate doesn`t vary between wiring and T/I, TBH; although I do provide a discounted hourly rate for continued work from a particular client.

Of course the insurance company will mark up your rate. So does a head contractor, site foreman, etc. etc.

If you employ an apprentice, and charge your customer ( for instance)