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The Daily Telegraph has discovered the Radio Teleswitch Service today:

"BBC switch-off to force 600,000 households on to smart meters"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/bills/energy/600000-households-forced-smart-meters/

Does these signal actively switch things every day, or often just keep the meter time clocks accurate?

So it it stops, will clocks in many meters merely start drifting over time, and nothing more serious than that?
 
All that changed since you saw a big black box called a "radio tele switch" is electronics got smaller and became built into dual rate meters. So they too will stop working if the signal stops.

I believe they would continue working on an internal timer if they did not receive the signal but that would all probably go wrong at the next power cut.

My honest advice for anyone still using E7 and storage heaters, spend some money and upgrade your heating for an Air Source Heat Pump. You will use about 1/3 of the electricity your storage heaters used, saving you money (more money than if you switched from a gas boiler to an ASHP) and you would not need to be on a dual rate tarrif, so a normal single rate tariff would also give you a cheaper day rate compared to E7.
 
We get regular messages from EDF, starting about a year ago, that RTS is being phased out.

But as our Economy 10 time periods for the storage rads are switched by a mechanical clock.

And EDF say they don't have a Smart Meter that handles E10.

We aren't rushing to change anything :)

Heat Pump ?

We couldn't contemplate the upheaval of installing pipework and radiators throughout the house.

Instead we have a mini split aircon on the livingroom wall.

Which was a god-send during last year's heat waves.

And gives heating boosts to the storage rads, which work pretty well with E10.
 
“And EDF say they don't have a Smart Meter that handles E10”
The smart meters can be on any time period they choose.
 
My honest advice for anyone still using E7 and storage heaters, spend some money and upgrade your heating for an Air Source Heat Pump. You will use about 1/3 of the electricity your storage heaters used, saving you money (more money than if you switched from a gas boiler to an ASHP) and you would not need to be on a dual rate tarrif, so a normal single rate tariff would also give you a cheaper day rate compared to E7.

I have mixed feelings on the whole ASHP pump thing, yes, on the whole the idea of air-source as a heat source is sound. But the way it is being pushed to be implimented in the UK is note. Air to water heat pumps arn't great because naturally efficientcy of the technology drops the larger the temperatural differntial its trying to work across, if we think about last week, temps of -5C here (probably colder up there in scotland) and if you are asking for a 40C flow temp, thats a big enough hurdle, but when a 40C flow temp is only actually suffcient when you have a large surface area (so masssiveeee rads, or whole house UFH, plus in those cold temperatures its a double edged sword has heat loss increases as well, especially if you are in a place with less than ideal U-values.

Its one of those things, that I think can work if you live in a place like yours dave almost to passivhaus standards and whole house UFH I'm guessing, but for me, in an old stone bungalow with 18" thick solid walls, the gas boiler with 60Deg flow struggles to heat it sometimes depending on weather!, replacing the boiler with an air-source heat pump just wouldn't work for me.

You've then get the issues that a lot of them are installed by big companies with chief excecs pocking government grants left right and centre and sending folk who have done a quick course to spec and install them.

Air to air heatpumps (a.k.a reverse cycle AC) on the other hand is often a lot less problematic, the temperature gradient they are being asked to work against is much less, with not much more than 20C being required, they don't depend on wall hogging radiators, or UFH which is not easy to retrofit. I use one to heat my conservatory, and it does a fantastic job of that even in the coldest weather, and as a bonus cools it in summer too

I get the feeling that all the properties built in the early 70s with warm air ducted central heating which had it ripped out in the 1980s for a wet system was probably a mistake, that would probably be an ideal system these days retrofitted with an air to air heat pump. afterall it works fine in the US mid-west where they get much colder whether than here.

My view is that wet system has had its day, it works well with gas boilers, but trying to shoe-horn an ASHP onto them is a serious compromise, and while improvements will be made, at the end of the day you are battling basic physics, so there is only so far you can go
 
@Phoenix this is the biggest problem with much of our housing stock - it's just badly insulated. I live in a Victorian terrace, I've looked at external wall cladding a few times, but it would destroy the look of my house, plus I've always been concerned about 'breathability'. My house wasn't designed to be sealed up. I'm still pondering cladding the rear tennement, but it isn't a cheap job. My other issue is the large chimmney stack, which must consist of several tons of bricks and mortar exposed to all weathers. I use log burners in 2 rooms, to keep some heat going up the chimney, and prevent damp ingress via the stack. About the only thing that may work for me is air to air in the kitchen, which is in the rear tennement, but we really need to see the cost of electric from green sources like wind decoupled from the cost of generation by gas - drop the leccy price and ASHP etc become viable alternatives.
 
Yes the ASHP works well here, it got to -12 just over a week ago and not above 0 for 2 weeks. but we run low temperature under floor heating. the ASHP still managed to heat the hot water tank to 48 degrees.

Like the discussions above, for a property with storage heaters and no heating plumbing, an Air to Air heat pump makes a lot more sense.

The present BUS grant is not really doing the job. In spite of a £7500 grant, most people seem to be getting high install costs. So still have to spend a lot of £££ and what do they get? A heat pump that if perfectly installed might just be a little cheaper to run than their gas boiler. No wonder they are not queuing up for that.

I fitted my ASHP because I knew I would be having UFH, there was no gas here so the only sensible alternative would have been oil, and I did not want an oil tank in the garden, and by just buying the ASHP and self installing it, it was probably no more expensive than an oil boiler and a oil tank would have been.
 
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