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i would never dream of doing gas work myself without having been formally trained.

 
will it stop DIY bob from having a go! ?:|
Only if places like B & Q stopped selling to the public,

Should be that made law unless you can prove you are electrically qualified and competent (EG JIB grading Card or similar photo ID with electrical qualifications) then no electrical items like sockets, cable etc can be sold to the purchaser.

 
Does the change to "qualified person" put an end to DIY gas work then?Before you all ask, up until now it's been legal for any "competent" person to do gas work in their own home (I have always done my own) it only becomes an offence when you do gas work for others without being a registered gas installer.
I am off the understanding that you cannot do any gas work unless you are a member of the Gas Safe scheme even as a DIY job

 
Should be that made law unless you can prove you are electrically qualified and competent (EG JIB grading Card or similar photo ID with electrical qualifications) then no electrical items like sockets, cable etc can be sold to the purchaser.
No-one would pay to police it, that's why you can buy gas fittings in DIY stores. Ridiculous idea anyway, competent person is fine, but most people seem to think that qualification = competency, and not just as a tradesman, it's a general misunderstanding.

I am off the understanding that you cannot do any gas work unless you are a member of the Gas Safe scheme even as a DIY job
Nope, he's right AFAIAA.

 
I am off the understanding that you cannot do any gas work unless you are a member of the Gas Safe scheme even as a DIY job
not that i know of. i think its always been a case of you can DIY gas in your own property. you only need to be corgi/gas safe if its for someone else

 
competent person is fine, but most people seem to think that qualification = competency, and not just as a tradesman, it's a general misunderstanding.
Good call, one example being the 65% pass grade in 2382 open book exam, qualified yes, but competent to fiddle around in peoples houses, hmmm

 
NoNo

No

Well, dont hold your breath

apparently not

Im a bit personal about this at the moment cos Ive just had a big row with a CSCS stoopid woman this week that told me I wasnt competent cos I didnt have an NVQ,

makes you wonder why NICEIC ever assessed me fine as a QS,

worlds going mad!!!!

MAD I TELL YE..!
The world has gone potty . You must have had steam coming out of your ears to be doubted of your competence by someone who is probably not familiar with the NICEIC or the other scheme providers and what knowledge you have to have to become registered with them in the first place . :_|

 
From The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) regulations 1998:

3. - (1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.{.....}

(3) Without prejudice to the generality of paragraphs (1) and (2) above and subject to paragraph (4) below, no employer shall allow any of his employees to carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or service pipework and no self-employed person shall carry out any such work, unless the employer or self-employed person, as the case may be, is a member of a class of persons approved for the time being by the Health and Safety Executive for the purposes of this paragraph.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1998/19982451.htm

So there's nothing to stop you working on your own gas installation, or helping out a friend, so long as you are competent, which is not specifically defined. The restrictions only come into effect if you are doing the work as an employee or self-employed person.

 
I am off the understanding that you cannot do any gas work unless you are a member of the Gas Safe scheme even as a DIY job
Under the present rules you can, as long as you are competent.

To give you an example, I built my own house 6 years ago. I did all the plumbing (and of course wiring and plenty of other things) in the whole house, including the oil feed to the boiler and a simple gas installation for the gas cooker, fed from 2 LPG cylinders outside with an auto changeover.

Building control had no problem accepting that I was competent to do that work, and as I had not been paid to do it, was not in breach of any laws.

That might all change if you have to be qualified, rather than competent.

P.S I'm competent because I have in a previous employment had some basic plumbing training, including gas work, but no formal qualifications.

 
that is very true, when i was at college all those years ago one of my lecturers was a sparks that hadn't been on the tools for over 20 years(although he said he still did PJ's for friends/family) and when he was within 3 years of retirement he moved from the college to the council as a sparky(same pension scheme so shifted it over, yes its relevent :) ) and when he first came on he spent the first 2 weeks shadowing me so he could get to know the area's that we work in, what to expect from the tenants and how to be with them and how to go about daily life around the yard(who to see for certain things etc etc). the reason he switched to the council is that our pension is final salary so he built up his 25 years worth of pension working at the college then moved over to the council on the tools for his final 3 years as the pension is based on your average salary over the last 3 working years(his pension was based on the council salary which was in the region of 10-15k higher than his college pension!).

anyway, back to the point. He was absolutely hopeless as an electrician, honestly he was barely any better than a 1st year apprentice practically(obviously his understanding and knowlege was excellent), on the tools he was shocking(no pun intended), it took him an hour to change a pull switch on a bathroom light!

so yeah competant and qualified can be a million miles apart but both i feel are important.

 
The world has gone potty . You must have had steam coming out of your ears to be doubted of your competence by someone who is probably not familiar with the NICEIC or the other scheme providers and what knowledge you have to have to become registered with them in the first place . :_|
and the rest,

I ended up just walking out,,,,,, WTF, stoopid woman, told girl in office I dont ever want to see that woman again...

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