Shower cable

[matthewgordon]

Hi all,

I have recently moved into a property that had the shower cable running up the outside of the house, nice!

I have now brought the cable inside but I need to put in a join to make it fit correctly. The easiest and most cost effective place for me to put a junction box is under the bath, so:

A: is this safe?

B: Will I need to get a special junction box?

I could put the join in the cavity wall and plaster over. This will be in the bathroom. Will this be better?

Thanks in advance

 

[Technician]

Careful; If the underside of the bath is enclosed it is

outside all zones, also removal of enclosure should

need a key or tool.

If not, box has to have an IP rating to IPX4 at least.

All joints must be capable of being inspected unless

they are stated to be maintenance free.

 

[Steve3948]

In-line resin joint maybe

 

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Hi all,I have recently moved into a property that had the shower cable running up the outside of the house, nice!

I have now brought the cable inside but I need to put in a join to make it fit correctly. The easiest and most cost effective place for me to put a junction box is under the bath, so:

A: is this safe?

B: Will I need to get a special junction box?

I could put the join in the cavity wall and plaster over. This will be in the bathroom. Will this be better?

Thanks in advance

Shower cable joints are prone to overheating and melting insulation if not terminated correctly...

Have a look in our black museum for examples!

As such joints in the cable should be avoided where possible..

if you are going to all the trouble to divert the cable...

Why not just put one new unbroken length in???

I personally would not put a joint box under a bath..

OR in a wall.....

See the good workmanship, and accessibility of joints etc, in BS7671...

TBH this sounds like a very DIY solution to a problem....

Would I be right if I guessed that this work is NOT going to be notified to LABC for a Part P compliance certificate?

As it is NOT like for like replacement..



Technically you may be able to make it electrically safe.....

But very Heath Robinson IMHO.

 

[matthewgordon]

Shower cable joints are prone to overheating and melting insulation if not terminated correctly...Have a look in our black museum for examples!

As such joints in the cable should be avoided where possible..

if you are going to all the trouble to divert the cable...

Why not just put one new unbroken length in???

I personally would not put a joint box under a bath..

OR in a wall.....

See the good workmanship, and accessibility of joints etc, in BS7671...

TBH this sounds like a very DIY solution to a problem....

Would I be right if I guessed that this work is NOT going to be notified to LABC for a Part P compliance certificate?

As it is NOT like for like replacement..



Technically you may be able to make it electrically safe.....

But very Heath Robinson IMHO.

I totally understand what you are saying. I though if I spend some money on a box with a good IP rating then this might be ok? I didn t fancy splashing out on a new cable if this one, with a small aleration, might do the job.

The cable actually just reaches the pull cord in the bathroom, its just a little tight.

So do you think I definetley need to rip the old one out and get a totally new cable in?

Thanks

 

[steptoe]

Move the pull cord?

 

[ProDave]

As above.

Move the pull cord or change it for a wall mounted isolator OUTSIDE the bathroom such that the original cable reaches the isolator.

Then at worst all you need is a new length of cable from the isolator to the shower.

Far far better than trying to joint the cable.

 

[matthewgordon]

I have thought about this already, but moving the pull cord or having a outside isolator would require even more cable as its in the best place already.

 

[batty]

Is it 6mm or 10mm?

 

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4.0mm??????????????????????????????

:coat