Telephone slave points

[MDB]

Hi,

Can anyone help me please.

I am currently pricing a 3 bed house wire. The plans show 3 telephone points, (which ive never had to install before) which im guessing are 1 master point and 2 slave points. My question is am I allowed to run the cat5 for these points or do I need to get a telephone engineer in? I know you need to run the cable seperate to the a/c but how is it best to wire up? For example: Do I need to run both of the supplys to the slave points back to the master point or can I run from the master point to the 1st slave point and then join the wires in the 1st slave and go straight to the 2nd slave point? (effectivly using the 1st slave point as a junction box) Ive been recommended for the job by a friend and really dont want to get it wrong! Thanks for your help.

 

[steptoe]

just daisy chain them, oh, and its not cat5, its just normal telephone cable, 2 pair would do, but I use 3pair cos thats all I keep in stock.

 

[MDB]

Brilliant thanks! I have been given a reel of cat5, can I use it and only connect the 2/3 cores?

 

[NozSpark]

+1

Just make sure you use the proper cable (not alarm cable) and for the money get a proper IDC tool

 

[MDB]

Yes ive seen the tool and will definatly invest! Thanks!

 

[Evans Electric]

And to be pedantic , connect your wiring to the Master Socket by plugging it in, not hard wired. It needs to be easily disconected from the BT system.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

You can use cat5. All you need between the sockets is terminals ,

2, blue & white

3, orange & white

5, white & blue

Dont cut the unused cores off, tie them back for future use

 

[ProDave]

Well what I do is connect all the slave sockets and wire them (daisy chain or star) back to where the master socket will be.

It's up to BT to connect the master socket.

Usually they fit an NTE5 master socket, and the plug in sub plate of that has connections for the cables off to the slave sockets. That's a plug in sub unit so complies with the regs that slave sockets are plugged in, but you wouldn't know from outside that it's a plug in unit, so no unsightly wires on show.

If the BT man is feeling nice, he may connect the wires to the slave sockets, otherwise you may have to go back and do that once the master has been fitted and tested by BT (strictly speaking fitted by Open Reach these days)

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

If Mr Pedantic is watching i 'think' cat 5 has a different twist on each pair than telephone cable, but it it still works fine to me.

 

[Sharpend]

Just to state the obvious, well you never know, don't forget to take a cable from the master point out to the bt supply cable point on the externals.

Edit; unless of course the master is an existing in which case it should be cabled from external point already.

 

[kerching]

If Mr Pedantic is watching i 'think' cat 5 has a different twist on each pair than telephone cable, but it it still works fine to me.

Well if you want to be really pedantic

2 is white/blue

3 is white / orange

5 is blue white........... :innocent

No prob with Cat5e as this is what all 'flood wired' systems are cabled in...it is just that BT will know it is not 'one of theirs' if Cat5e is used BUT in my experience they don't give a flying coin-flip !!

............................. :coat

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Well if you want to be really pedantic2 is white/blue

3 is white / orange

5 is blue white........... :innocent

............................. :coat

Thats wrong ( i was correct above)

 

[Sharpend]

Sorry have to agree with Slips on this occasion.

 

[kerching]

Thats wrong ( i was correct above)

Hangs head in shame!

I have no fricking idea why I wrote that, really! I install hundreds of them!....I even used to remember the colours as G B O instead of GPO [as Openreach used to be called]

It must be Mr Merlot affecting me...............I proffer no other excuse

:shakehead

 

[Sharpend]

May I suggest that you change who you hang out with in the evenings, he's having too much of an influence on you!

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I suggest you become friends with Mr Sutter Home Fre Merlot

 

[paul b b]

Am I correct in saying that you don't need to connect 3 anymore (unless you have an old phone) as this is the ringer and will slow your internet down

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I have heard that alot, all DECT phones work without the ringer connection but i have seen no official answer.