Todays Request...

[NozSpark]

Today I had a call off a regular customer... he wants me to wire a 3ph supply for a display chiller... its being installed on Thursday

As it is I do have some time on Wednesday,,,, ive not booked anything in for that day yet but I was hoping to do some jobs that I've had waiting on my books for an age.

The problem is that the company say that the condenser needs a 32A 3ph supply,,, now theres no way that a condenser needs a supply like that, the suppliers recon that the condenser is 3hp so surely that should run very happily on a C16 or even a C10....

Or am I wrong?

 

[Sidewinder]

They are probably looking at a B32 to stop it from tripping on inrush, because they are Muppets!

 

[Manator]

As Sidewinder says above, I get asked this all the time and when you see the plate it says totally different.

 

[NozSpark]

The thing I installed 2 supplies right across the other side of the building about 8 years ago for an air con unit and a chiller unit,, both of them 32A 3ph,,, IIRC I put in 16mm 4c SWA for them

 

[kerching]

I have yet to meet an Air Con or Refrig "engineer" who actually got the start and run currents correct. They ALWAYS seem to be about 6X too much

Just saying

 

[steptoe]

I think they go on the fact that on the last one the 'spark' had to fit a B45 to stop it tripping on start,

they've never heard of Cs or Ds  :|

 

[kerching]

I just love the random use of the word Engineer and Technician

Nail Technician?......what can be so hard about 10 fingers?

Vending equipment engineer!??

Just confused

 

[NozSpark]

There's another co. that I've been dealing with..... They're using BS1362 fuses within the panel

 

[Sidewinder]

I'm not even going to get onto the Engineer/Technician soap box!

 

[NozSpark]

I'm not even going to get onto the Engineer/Technician soap box!

LOL you mean the Technician/Engineer soap box :slap

 

[Sidewinder]

Just, not biting...

 

[NozSpark]

 

[Sharpend]

Just, not biting...

Is that another way of saying I don't need a nail technician. ??

 

[Evans Electric]

I've had the same for years with Air Con blokes specifying  30A TP supplies to the condensor units mounted outside .  WHen they appear they are in the region of a 1/4 HP motor ...

 

[kerching]

I was talking to an alarm engineer today

I asked him what made him an "engineer"

He said he was an "engineer" because he repaired the alarms, the fitters fit them and the Sparks puts a supply to them!

Simples

Problem resolved

Soap box duly burnt

Just saying

 

[Manator]

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/44889

 

[steptoe]

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/44889

its closed 

 

[Manator]

The petition is now closed, but I was just using it as an example of why using the word engineer is not appropriate for describing some trades.

Engineer is in fact derived from two Latin words, both fail to come to mind just now apart from the English,devise and cleverness which I think is Ingenium.

An engineer uses science and mathematics to find solutions to problems.

If we take a simple table for example, you could make one from scratch no problem, but the engineer will tell you how stable it is, how long it will last, how much weight it can hold and prove by equations all his or her findings.

Now most people who call themselves engineers would not know anything about si or Youngs modulas, they would probably still write large numbers by using all the 0's instead of scientific notation.

Oh and engineers get really excited when they solve a problem, so much so that it is recorded so others can follow. On my degree if I do not do some certain modules, even if I get my degree in engineering I will not earn the right to call myself an engineer.

 

[kerching]

For my part. Rachel Riley, Kylie, Holly Willoughbooby, etc can induce a high Young's Modulus value

Anne Widdecombe, et al invoke a very very low modulus

Oh , the mere thought of Young's modulus, Hook's Law, etc......it takes me back ! Unfortunately it takes me back too far. Roughly 1976 -79!

Just failing

 

[Richard-the-Ninth]

Does it not come from perception?

In that to say engineer, sounds better than (for example) operative?

As in

Hi I am the boiler repair operative

Or

Hi, I am the boiler engineer