Tough One To Price

[Bez]

I've been invited to tender for a new build of quite high spec. I have received some pretty detailed plans and notes so materials list is easy, it comes in just shy of

 

[Zeespark]

Bez give them an estimate of 2 days per room.

:coat I would then discount any days that I didnt use.

AndyGuinness

 

[Lurch]

Straight off the bat I had 4-5 weeks labour in my head, possibly more so not far off. Difficult to say without seeing the job, but I tend to make a decent job of pricing where others tend to miss the details. You also need to bear in mind that it's good to get the job, but not at the expense of undercutting someone who will happily lash it in for next to nothing.

Price it normally, send it in. I don;t even give it a second thought any more.

 

[Theorysparky]

Bez

if you have priced it as dayrate trying pricing

 

[Bez]

Bez5k seems cheap

5k was just for the materials

 

[batty]

Bezif you have priced it as dayrate trying pricing

 

[Evans Electric]

Off the top of my head , Bez, labour at

 

[green-hornet]

You will have to stay as competative as you can.

You will have a basic idea of your hourly costs, so working out labour in your case is how long you expect to take.

I try to follow a simple rule, I know roughly how long each task should take, so can work out how much I would expect to get done in a given week.

Then I always add at least one week if not two on larger jobs, simply because other trades always slow you down.

For instance this week I have been doing a resturaunt, the owner wanted me to come in and do what I could inbetween certain items being fitted, I told him that I could but he would have to pay for the full day, and that the work I had to do may only take me 3 hours. So on my advise he waited and today I went in and did a full day, thats 1 days labour as against say 2 or three if he had his way. I save him money, I dont waste my time and everyone is happy.

Thats why I always add extra days if not weeks onto the job.

You must allow for any snagging, there is always that!

 

[Voltimax]

A qualified estimator once told me this.

1-1.25 hours per point for new build (switch gangs count as one point to balance out).

Tally it up, divide it by the hours you work in a day and see if it looks reasonable. That's not written in stone but it's a very quick way of doing it, then use experience. Remember a big job is just lots of small jobs so try breaking it down as such.

By the way, provided it gets approved, I have uploaded a linked excel spreadsheet using this very method to speed up things even more. Give it a look when and if the moderators approve it of course.

 

[Apache]

I'm sure your workmanship is 100% but a job of this scale the customer is likely to want everything perfect! You might be fiddling with flat plate switches and sockets, unusual (unfamiliar) light fittings that will eat extra time?

Just my thoughts....

 

[Bez]

A qualified estimator once told me this.1-1.25 hours per point for new build (switch gangs count as one point to balance out).

Tally it up, divide it by the hours you work in a day and see if it looks reasonable. That's not written in stone but it's a very quick way of doing it, then use experience. Remember a big job is just lots of small jobs so try breaking it down as such.

By the way, provided it gets approved, I have uploaded a linked excel spreadsheet using this very method to speed up things even more. Give it a look when and if the moderators approve it of course.

I don't think that's too far off the mark, I counted 240 points

240 x 1.00 = 240 hrs

240hrs x

 

[musicspark]

A qualified estimator once told me this.1-1.25 hours per point for new build (switch gangs count as one point to balance out).

Tally it up, divide it by the hours you work in a day and see if it looks reasonable. That's not written in stone but it's a very quick way of doing it, then use experience. Remember a big job is just lots of small jobs so try breaking it down as such.

By the way, provided it gets approved, I have uploaded a linked excel spreadsheet using this very method to speed up things even more. Give it a look when and if the moderators approve it of course.

I'll look forward to that mate; when wiil we see it?

 

[musicspark]

I am confused as to what counts as a point.

can somebody help me?

 

[Apache]

I am confused as to what counts as a point.can somebody help me?

It's the bit you don't want to sit on

 

[Bez]

Applaud Smiley

Patch on form at this late hour

 

[Bez]

I am confused as to what counts as a point.can somebody help me?

Anywhere there's a bit of cable sticking out that you have to attach something to

 

[musicspark]

It's the bit you don't want to sit on

thanks patch!

Two sets of four downlights on two gang switch; how many points?

 

[Apache]

thanks patch! Two sets of four downlights on two gang switch; how many points?

4 X 2 = 8 + 2 switched = 10 points*

(*excluding the pencil behind your ear...)

 

[Bez]

I make it 9

 

[ProDave]

I price new builds at 1 hours labour per "point" at your normal hourly rate, and that usually works out about right.

There will be a lot of "points" in that house so it will be expensive.

Anyone building a house to that spec. must expect a high bill. I wouldn't go in too low otherwise I could see it being nothing but grief.

I would think more than 2 days for testing.