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[Rob.]

Nice Siemens s5.

Good luck finding someone who can deal with the software on those. 

If you end up struggling I can help. Unfortunately it'd cost more than a few pints.

I also have spares.

 

[Sidewinder]

Nice Siemens s5.

Good luck finding someone who can deal with the software on those. 

If you end up struggling I can help. Unfortunately it'd cost more than a few pints.

I also have spares.

I can do the S5 95, & I have a field PG with the S5 interfaces including the prommer!

Rap, if you are stuck, I am available at suitable notice.

I sold my spares to a client to get their machine going, but I can get spares, with warranty, and get them repaired, I have a mate with quite a few S5 bits and several test rigs set up.

Machinery repairs/fault finding is what I do most of, the next biggest workload is PUWER & CE.

I've also had to order a new output module.

I am getting one second hand off e-bay as they appear to be obsolete

BTW @misssweden how do you pronounce the name of this machine, I have taken to calling it the A*r*s*e F*e*c*k*i*n

I don't think this is correct  :C

Not that I would know, but I would say it as Urrsveekinn

 

[rapparee]

Nice Siemens s5.

Good luck finding someone who can deal with the software on those. 

If you end up struggling I can help. Unfortunately it'd cost more than a few pints.

I also have spares.

Thanks

I was already on EBay today stocking up on a few input and output cards, they're relatively cheap

I also have a PLC man, he is only 70 years old and he was quite emphatic on how intimate he knew this type of PLC, even though he is more of a Mitsubishi man. (In the 1970s he was actually in my job, but he left to work in Iran on some reverse osmosis desalination project)

We have him working on a different project, along with a 50yr old panel builder. I'm just the young whipper snapper and gofer when I am around these guys. They are patient enough to give me mini lessons on different aspects of electronics etc. Even though I am supposed to be their quasi-boss being the representative of the company and they are subcontractors. In reality I just do what I'm told  :Blushing

 

[Rob.]

Well the offers there. Along with sidwinder. 

My field pg (Siemens laptop) must be 28 - 29 years old now. 

Just whatever you do, don't bugger that eprom. I'd also recommend getting software backups now! You can print the code straight to .pdf too. Useful as the laptops that can communicate with these are dying out. A print out can be used to 're write from and use something more up to date.

With the IO you're using there an S7-1200 replacement with 're written software would be around the 1200 - 1500 quid mark. Providing you have the current code to work from.

The biggest job is going to be bringing it up to current regulations.

 

[rapparee]

I can do the S5 95, & I have a field PG with the S5 interfaces including the prommer!

Rap, if you are stuck, I am available at suitable notice.

I sold my spares to a client to get their machine going, but I can get spares, with warranty, and get them repaired, I have a mate with quite a few S5 bits and several test rigs set up.

Machinery repairs/fault finding is what I do most of, the next biggest workload is PUWER & CE.

Not that I would know, but I would say it as Urrsveekinn

See above, but Thanks for the offer.

When it comes to repairing obsolete electronics, I use Lektronix they are a subsidiary of Rockwell Automation, they have a base in Newry which suits me. 

I have also seen myself buying a second hand Bosch Indramat motor from Poland, on an overnight flight.

The senior managers have a laugh amongst themselves at my procurement practices. I am currently paying some Russians to buy me ultrasonic sensors from China, for some reasons the Chinese are prohibited from dealing with foreigners. These particular sensors were for the domestic market.

 

[Sidewinder]

Well the offers there. Along with sidwinder. 

My field pg (Siemens laptop) must be 28 - 29 years old now. 

Just whatever you do, don't bugger that eprom. I'd also recommend getting software backups now! You can print the code straight to .pdf too. Useful as the laptops that can communicate with these are dying out. A print out can be used to 're write from and use something more up to date.

With the IO you're using there an S7-1200 replacement with 're written software would be around the 1200 - 1500 quid mark. Providing you have the current code to work from.

The biggest job is going to be bringing it up to current regulations.

I can help with that too.

It's been re-located now so it must be made PUWER compliant, and that will mean updates unfortunately, unless the company is willing to break the law.

Oh, and 50 is NOT old BTW!

See above, but Thanks for the offer.

When it comes to repairing obsolete electronics, I use Lektronix they are a subsidiary of Rockwell Automation, they have a base in Newry which suits me. 

I have also seen myself buying a second hand Bosch Indramat motor from Poland, on an overnight flight.

The senior managers have a laugh amongst themselves at my procurement practices. I am currently paying some Russians to buy me ultrasonic sensors from China, for some reasons the Chinese are prohibited from dealing with foreigners. These particular sensors were for the domestic market.

I now the Bosch Rexroth (Indramat) kit very well, I used to work in the service department doing service, service applications, retrofits, and predictive maintenance technologies.

Remember when you import kit like that, the senior managers won't be laughing so much when they realise that they are legally responsible for importing the equipment into the EU, and placing it on the market, especially if it is non-compliant, as that again is a breach of statute law.

 

[Sidewinder]

Oh btw, I know Lektronix quite well also, I know the guy that started it and sold it to Rockwell, and a few of his immediate senior management from when he was running it quite well.

 

[rapparee]

Well the offers there. Along with sidwinder. 

My field pg (Siemens laptop) must be 28 - 29 years old now. 

Just whatever you do, don't bugger that eprom. I'd also recommend getting software backups now! You can print the code straight to .pdf too. Useful as the laptops that can communicate with these are dying out. A print out can be used to 're write from and use something more up to date.

With the IO you're using there an S7-1200 replacement with 're written software would be around the 1200 - 1500 quid mark. Providing you have the current code to work from.

The biggest job is going to be bringing it up to current regulations.

Thanks for the advice

As regards to up to standard, we are going to fence it off. There will be an ABB robotic arm actually working the press.

There is an outside company from Derry who are coming in to oversee the various "handshakes" between the machines, they will then TÜV certify it.

 

[Rob.]

As a member of the TÜV I can tell you without a decent amount of upgrading they will not certifie it as compliment with out a decent amount of upgrading.

However, sounds like you have things in hand. Good luck with the project! I quite enjoy breathing new life into machines like this.

 

[rapparee]

I can help with that too.

It's been re-located now so it must be made PUWER compliant, and that will mean updates unfortunately, unless the company is willing to break the law.

Oh, and 50 is NOT old BTW!

I now the Bosch Rexroth (Indramat) kit very well, I used to work in the service department doing service, service applications, retrofits, and predictive maintenance technologies.

Remember when you import kit like that, the senior managers won't be laughing so much when they realise that they are legally responsible for importing the equipment into the EU, and placing it on the market, especially if it is non-compliant, as that again is a breach of statute law.

Yeah once again see post above. The Derry company will TÜV certify it.

I know it's not old, but the stuff I've learnt in this last two years, I expect to be an electrical samurai in another twenty years lol.

RE the indramat motor, the absolute shaft encoder had failed. It was  a nightmare, but I got it sorted in the end. It was the fear of when I ordered the motor. Was it the motor or the drive.

RE Lektronix. Do you know more than me about everything I go to mention  :slap

As a member of the TÜV I can tell you without a decent amount of upgrading they will not certifie it as compliment with out a decent amount of upgrading.

However, sounds like you have things in hand. Good luck with the project! I quite enjoy breathing new life into machines like this.

Thanks

 

[Sidewinder]

Yeah once again see post above. The Derry company will TÜV certify it.

I know it's not old, but the stuff I've learnt in this last two years, I expect to be an electrical samurai in another twenty years lol.

RE the indramat motor, the absolute shaft encoder had failed. It was  a nightmare, but I got it sorted in the end. It was the fear of when I ordered the motor. Was it the motor or the drive.

RE Lektronix. Do you know more than me about everything I go to mention  :slap

Thanks

You forget I've been in the machinery game for the last 30 years, most of it mobile on service, for OEM's, and 3rd party repair companies, and for the last 12+ years I've lived off my knowledge of the industry, and machinery of all kinds plying my trade to companies from sole traders with machines right up to global companies, and the public sector, to pay the bills and keep my kids fed.

The other aspect of what I do more of now I am falling apart from doing the machinery for 35+ years is the machinery safety stuff, which I did at Bosch Rexroth as part of our retrofits programme, and subsequently became a TUV certified machinery safety expert.

I now do a lot of work for one of the guys who was a director of what TUV-Sud bought out to become their machinery division.

That was along side and after doing my degree & masters in engineering, so you could say I've done a bit of machinery works in my time!

 

[rapparee]

It is all in vain.

We are ripping it out and starting again. It was hopelessly outdated. 

We are replacing the hydraulic valves, so they will be monitored, we are also fitting light guards and other safety features so it is quicker to have a new electrical panel built. With a new PLC. 

I was told by the management to spend whatever it takes.

 

[Sidewinder]

Just make sure for your own sake please, that you get the right kit & design, get external advice even.

You now will need to meet currect safety standards, you're looking at 60204 & 13849, 12100 etc.

This is quite an onerous taks if you are not familiar with the current legal requirements.