Why do I need an MOP? (Apart from cleaning the floor)

[Slateral]

I have a SMETS1 meter that has been updated to allow tariff transfer when changing supplier. Currently with Octopus who are happily receiving 30 minute imporrt/export data from the meter.

I requested Octopus to install a Zappi charger. The respnse I received was :-

"Thank you for reaching out. (Grrr - bad start!)
I've requested an appointment for your meter exchange to MOP, which is LEYLAND METERING SERVICES LTD (LMSL)
They should get in touch with you within two business days to confirm and book the appointment."

I haven't been contacted yet, but it is the Christmas holiday period.

Now, I had never heard of an MOP (meter operator) contract or any requirement for one for a domestic user. Octopus haven't given me an explanation so far.

Googling it reveals an MOP is a requirement for 30 minute meter readiings, but Octopus already receive those. Providers of MOP contracts reckon it can save the user money as it can be more accurate than the supplier providing the service (Mandy Rice-Davies quote applies!)

Has anyone come across this as a requirement for fitting a charging point and throw some light on this?

Hopefully an explanation from Octopus will be forthcoming once the holiday period is over.

 

[johnb2713]

Maybe it's to integrate the centrally controlled charging time aspect of your install? The grid can delay / reduce the charge rate of your Zappi.

 

[Murdoch]

And it’s probably a precursor to taxing you for when you charge your EV

 

[johnb2713]

And it’s probably a precursor to taxing you for when you charge your EV

But that wouldn't and couldn't work, solar and battery on the outgoing side, meter not involved.

 

[+Sid]

For general interest: MOP contracts - what are they and why do I need one https://eaguk.org/energy-services/mop-contracts/

 

[Murdoch]

But that wouldn't and couldn't work, solar and battery on the outgoing side, meter not involved.

dont be so sure

remember this tax is to replace VED ……

 

[Slateral]

For general interest: MOP contracts - what are they and why do I need one https://eaguk.org/energy-services/mop-contracts/

Thanks - I had been there in my Googlings and I note the statement on the website:-

"There are wide differences in pricing ranging from £220 to £600 per annum, with contract terms between 1 and 5 years.
MOP charges are sometimes collected through your electricity bill although normally directly by your meter operator (MOP)"

Since an MOP is, according to the website, now a requirement, I can only assume that Octopus are currently handling the MOP charges, but then why would it be necessary to take out a separate expensive contract?

Ah well, hopefully all will be revealed in due course!
Happy New Year to all!

 

[johnb2713]

dont be so sure

remember this tax is to replace VED ……

I'm sure there will be a tax to replace VED but how on earth could it work through the electricity supply meter when people have solar etc which neatly bypasses the meter going straight to the wallbox?

 

[Murdoch]

I'm sure there will be a tax to replace VED but how on earth could it work through the electricity supply meter when people have solar etc which neatly bypasses the meter going straight to the wallbox?

It’s easy when chargers record the charging data ……,

 

[johnb2713]

It’s easy when chargers record the charging data ……,

Thats where you come unstuck, I initially made my own charger, dead easy to do and it would be an absolute breeze to fool the system.

 

[binky]

It’s easy when chargers record the charging data ……,

I believe the tech is for the DNO to control supply loadings. How accurate it would be for billing purposes I don't know, but I doubt it's OFGEM approved for such things.

 

[Murdoch]

Thats where you come unstuck, I initially made my own charger, dead easy to do and it would be an absolute breeze to fool the system.

Would you please stop applying common sense. The civil service doesn’t have any at all

 

[johnb2713]

Would you please stop applying common sense. The civil service doesn’t have any at all

Good point, well raised. Humble apologies m'lud.