What do you domestic guys put in at a prospective t.v. location these days, for future proofing, power, obviously, single, double, 2 x double, Cat5, terrestrial co-ax, satellite shotgun co-ax etc please?
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Due to my published abject hatred of Domestic IF i have to I would install. Shotgun Cat5e and shotgun. satellite as a minimum
others will be along shortly to criticise me, i feel
DILLIGAF?
others will be along shortly to criticise me, i feel
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Shotgun Cat5E? kerch?
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At LEAST 3, if not 4 coax's fed back to a central location, e.g loft. then they can be used for terrestiral, satellite, distribution feed etc.
Don't forget power at that central location, and it must be possible to route cables to the outside from there.
Telephone point for a sky / virgin box.
cat 5 for network to same.
Think about where tv will go and where digiboxes will go. Buried hdmi leads between the two.
speaker cables for surround sound etc.
Don't forget power at that central location, and it must be possible to route cables to the outside from there.
Telephone point for a sky / virgin box.
cat 5 for network to same.
Think about where tv will go and where digiboxes will go. Buried hdmi leads between the two.
speaker cables for surround sound etc.
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Why yes, sir.
i purchase it from my corner shop
http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-power/pp7112/cat-5e-utp-figure-8-305m/dp/CB14478
very handy
just.....local
Thanks PD,
Sorry I was not quite so clear, it will be a bedroom, basically we need to have a wall re-skimmed in the girls bedroom, but, as one is moving out to Uni, our lad may well be moving in there shortly, but his remaining @ home sister will have it for now.
No worries about loft access, bungalow.
Forgot about HDMI, glad I asked now, I could stuff a 10m HDMI in the wall & leave it in the loft if needed, or bring it down to a prospective location.
I may go for 2x shotgun co-ax, IIRC terrestrial signals are OK down sat/digi co-ax anyway, so perhaps 2x shotgun sky co-ax.
We have an amp / distribution centre to go in the loft & power up there anyway.
Don't know if we would need a telephone point at the tv.
Again, not made myself clear, this would be behind the "wall mount" flat screen position, and above a fire place, so nearby I would probably put a phone point and the other things, but, perhaps not actually "behind" where the TV would be.
IF I can get tube into the wall, I may well do this as it is to be re-rendered & re-plastered, so I do have scope for tube!!!
Keep the ideas coming, the last time I rewired a domestic, or even a partial that was not to a pre-defined spec was over 20 yrs ago!
Thanks guys.
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A neat trick in a bedroom with a wall mounted tv (could apply to any room in a bungalow) is just sink some trunking or a couple of runs of 25mm conduit from behind the tv up into the loft.
Then whatever you need in the future you can pull through (check first if an hdmi plug will go through 25mm conduit, it might not)
Then whatever you need in the future you can pull through (check first if an hdmi plug will go through 25mm conduit, it might not)
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I built out the chimney breast by about 100mm.
EVERY port on the TV was replicated in the cupboard in the alcove where the 5.1 is along with DVD player
there is also 2 network points, spare duct x 2, 2 x ducts to adjacent room as the floor is tiled and not accessible
2 x ducts to top of cupboard in alcove above DVD player cupboard
all bases covered I think
EVERY port on the TV was replicated in the cupboard in the alcove where the 5.1 is along with DVD player
there is also 2 network points, spare duct x 2, 2 x ducts to adjacent room as the floor is tiled and not accessible
2 x ducts to top of cupboard in alcove above DVD player cupboard
all bases covered I think
Personally wouldn't use shotgun, for a start if you don't have any you have to buy a drum and its rg6, 100 grade coax costs nothing and you are more likely to use th rest of the drum at some point!
If I was future proofing a couple of cat5s are a must baluns that work with pairs at much cheaper.
If I was future proofing a couple of cat5s are a must baluns that work with pairs at much cheaper.
HDMI will fit through 20mm conduit if you trim the edges off the plug.!
Bitter experience tells me that, :|
A question then for you who use oval conduit, how do you joint this to metal flush back boxes with 20mm knock outs?
Never done it, never had to do it, not sure if I want to do it, but may find I need to do it!
Don't ask, but, it will NOT be in relation to a kitchen install that is sure!!!
Never done it, never had to do it, not sure if I want to do it, but may find I need to do it!
Don't ask, but, it will NOT be in relation to a kitchen install that is sure!!!
3/4 just shove it through the knock out and a bit of bonding/silicon/whatever.
I try avoid oval though if I can, and havent used 5/8 in years.
I try avoid oval though if I can, and havent used 5/8 in years.
I've only ever buried cables direct in domestic in the past, & ALL my Ind. & Comm, have always been surface, never used or thought of oval tube!
The last one I did was for my brother.
Removed skirting board, measured up so cables would exit behind the screen.
Chopped in 50x50 pvc trunk & cut hole in floor board below trunk.
Put a single deep back box in at the top of trunking (cut the lower edge out of the back box so trunk entered back box)
put following cables in;
3x flat HDMI in (ps3 / virgin-sky / surround sound).
2x cat6 (network)
1x composite
1x vga (laptop connection)
1x usb (laptop connection)
1x draw string.
http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/hdmi-cables.html
fed all cables out through a single brush cable entry/exit face plate.
http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/hdmi-cables.html
Sandpapered the trunk lid & skimmed the wall covering the trunking.
Might have some pics somewhere.
Removed skirting board, measured up so cables would exit behind the screen.
Chopped in 50x50 pvc trunk & cut hole in floor board below trunk.
Put a single deep back box in at the top of trunking (cut the lower edge out of the back box so trunk entered back box)
put following cables in;
3x flat HDMI in (ps3 / virgin-sky / surround sound).
2x cat6 (network)
1x composite
1x vga (laptop connection)
1x usb (laptop connection)
1x draw string.
http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/hdmi-cables.html
fed all cables out through a single brush cable entry/exit face plate.
http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/hdmi-cables.html
Sandpapered the trunk lid & skimmed the wall covering the trunking.
Might have some pics somewhere.
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Depends on what's needed/how much the clients looking to pay, in an ideal world I'd have 3 to 4 good quality co-ax's, a couple of hdmi cables, cat5/cat6 for network a phone line provisions for surround sound and as many doubles as needed too.
I usually run everything down/up the wall in 25mm conduits and 47mm knockout boxes with draws left in for the unforeseen and use the brush cover fronts for the likes of the surround sound and hdmi or sometimes I've used hdmi faceplates
I usually run everything down/up the wall in 25mm conduits and 47mm knockout boxes with draws left in for the unforeseen and use the brush cover fronts for the likes of the surround sound and hdmi or sometimes I've used hdmi faceplates
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