Ah ! Just What We All Needed........not !

[Evans Electric]

Yet another Quango type outfit  has been created by the  ECA....The JIB....The JTL   :C   (?)  ...National Electrotechnical Training  ( NET) ...  SummitSkills and  Unite the Union.

Its called  The Electrictechnical Skills Partnership ( TESP )   apparently . 

I really couldn't be bothered to read on to see what it's purpose is .  

( How did we manage without it I ask ?) :C

 

[kerching]

Ah, so it is a not for profit partnership.

I think that means that there WILL BE NO PROFIT AS IT ALL GOES ON SALARIES

 

[binky]

I think that means that there WILL BE NO PROFIT AS IT ALL GOES ON SALARIES

:slap :slap :slap :slap

 

[binky]

best desribed as a not for profit business, which is how most charities work these days.

 

[kerching]

NIC is a charity

They all do it for free....now there is a model that many could follow and emulate...

Slightly different definition though but

 

[Evans Electric]

Is that still the case Kerch ?      My mate is always saying they are no longer a charity .

Wikipedia  has it as owned by Electrical Safety Council    and Certsure .   :C

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

The Electrical Safety Council is a registered charity......

http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=257376&SubsidiaryNumber=0

opcorn

 

[kerching]

i thought there was some mention of 'we are a charidddddddy' when Emma was on that parliamentary select committee farce last year

if she wants a "donation"  I would be only to happy to oblige...once RR has finished with me

The Electrical Safety Council is a registered charity......

http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=257376&SubsidiaryNumber=0

opcorn

how do we weedle out of that what they paid themselves for running this chariddddddddy?

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

how do we weedle out of that what they paid themselves for running this chariddddddddy?

view accounts...

http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/DocumentList.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=257376&SubsidiaryNumber=0&DocType=AccountList

pick your year...

say. ending mar 2013..

then

page 26 Staff costs...

http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends76/0000257376_AC_20130331_E_C.pdf

(Emma is printed on page 3!!!!!!!!

not the same as 'OTHER' pages 3's ]  )

:Salute   Guinness

 

[Evans Electric]

What happens to the profits from all the gear & tools  they sell then ?    

Is Certsure a charity  then ?       How is it  a company is created , that then somehow "Owns " a charity as in NICEIC ?

Is Nappett a charity then ? 

Edit :-  Thanks  Specs.

So a charity can be a limited Company then  ?

So what is Asertiva Ltd  ?   So really  NICEIC, ECA , ESC, ELECSA, CERTSURE  ,  ASCERTIVA  all the same then ? 

Why is it a charity ?  

Does the gas industry have all these different set ups  or is it just Gas Safe. ?

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Back again from Page 3...

Ascertiva Group Ltd is a "TRADING SUBSIDIARY" of the Electrical Safety Council...

Ascertiva Group Ltd   Formally Known as NICEIC..!

http://www.b.co.uk/Company/Profile/256390

IMHO...  Trading Subsidiary means that bit is NOT a charity..!!

 

[Evans Electric]

Thanks ,  I think you're right there Specs ,  the way they push their catalogue stuff  it must be profit making . 

I still have this problem though ,  charities I understand ...as in  ,  local hospice ,  NSPCC, RSPCA,  cancer charities  etc so why is NICEIC set up as a charity , ?   

Just wondering .

( And the only trade scheme I ever heard of in the Gas industry  is Gorgi  & Gas Safe )

(And theres some sort of Federation for Plumbers  I believe)

We must have 1000 of 'em .

 

[Evans Electric]

Blimey  they're in the same league as Stepps :innocent

 

[steptoe]

that was my tax return you saw Deke, 

 

[Blue Duck]

From specs link...

"They gift aid their profits to the electrical safety council"

Tax avoidance no?

 

[kerching]

Sometimes I feel that I am running my business as a Charidddddddddy

 

[Steve3948]

This is what annoys me about some of the top Charities, when you read that the top people running them are being paid like £125k per year.

It makes you wonder like for every £1 donated only 1p goes to the cause the rest is so called overheads.

 

[Sharpend]

This is the exact reasoning why I don't give to charity, simply too much money is wasted on employing people for the sake of employing them.