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I'd personally avoid the Toolstation offers on AEG.  I started on the AEG road and the drill shot sparks out like a kid's toy from yesteryear and sounded like a bag of bolts. Took it back the same day to be told TS wouldn't take AEG stuff back and it has to go back to AEG.  Words were had and they took it back. I went round the corner and started on the Makita journey.

Supposed to be some tie up between AEG and Milwaukee (same Chinese parent company I think). Poles apart on quality.

 
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AEG used to be quite good, although I haven't seen one for about 6 years. Didn't like them much, they were ruddy heavy. 


The blue ones were beasts. TTI I think it was took them over and rebranded them orange. Loads more plastic / less metal. Dire. 

 
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A colleague of mine purchased a hitachi 18v from SF and the trigger failed in a few months, blown mosfet probably.

took it back, got another that failed a few months later took it back again and got a bosch and thats not gone wrong yet!

Could be an SF thing.
I wonder which model he had. I'm on my second drill, I got about 5 years out of the last one. The abuse it took was phenomenal, toolmaker who were too lazy to use the mill would borrow it to do god knows what with it.

 
7 hours ago, Blue Duck said:

Ohhh Canada  :Salute  🇨🇦




Interesting  .....  now did I hear correctly ,  the  motor is AC    ...produced by the electronics .

I'm just wondering ............  an old fashioned cordless  ..DC  motor  ...it goes round & round  ....latest cordless  ...inboard  electronics produces AC for motor  ....and it goes round & round .  

 
Where's Festool, power to weight is amazing. Pricey though! Makes Milwaukee look cheap

Panasonic?


Graphic is from an American article that popped up in my news feed a few months ago. :C

Festool is really nice stuff, mate has the 18v sds, grapes brilliant, As well as the track saw which just about every chippie I know owns.

EXPENSIVE.

Panasonic, not friends with the 36v sds I got from work that is giving me tinnitus & white finger!  X(

 
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Regarding Makita 1830 "clones" from e-bay, I have some of these and they charge and hold OK. Only snag I found, (twice), is that if you stall the machine with a fully charged battery the battery internal wiring can fuse.  If you do that though, don't bin them;  they aren't sealed and can be opened and repaired. They are quite good enough for my limited usage.

 
Regarding Makita 1830 "clones" from e-bay, I have some of these and they charge and hold OK. Only snag I found, (twice), is that if you stall the machine with a fully charged battery the battery internal wiring can fuse.  If you do that though, don't bin them;  they aren't sealed and can be opened and repaired. They are quite good enough for my limited usage.


The clones I have both have cross head screws in them. The Makita has security Torx screws. 

Interestingly the pcb in the first clone battery was very different from the genuine Makita battery but the the second clone, from another random source was different again from both original and clone. So 3 different boards!

I tried a cheap repair pcb off the net in the original battery...didn't work!

 
On the back of this thread I was looking at cheap batteries on eBay and came across some 3.0Ah NimH batteries for my old Makita 12V drills. I gave up on the drills when the original batteries died and made the jump to 18V Makita L-ion. 

Haven't tried them yet but for £4.99 the pair

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Can't see they'll be cr@p if they've taken this much care etc over the packing.

Really not sure what I'll do with the working 12V drill. Give to SWMBO for Xmas? :)

 
I would never accuse OnOff of being in control of a keyboard whilst under the influence of anything, But a wayward post has been re-repatriated with this thread after appearing in the working on cars changing lamps and Ford Capri appreciation society thread. (we may not always be quick at getting forum housekeeping done, but we do our best!)

Doc H.

 
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