boiler in bathroom

[moose man]

been to a customer the boiler supply is on a fcu not ip rated supply as no rcd protection no evidence of suplimentery bonding

it ws put in about 2 years ago the fcu is just out of zone 2

thay have taken bath out and put a shower in with a cubical

i have said that this needs adressing what your thougts on this

thanks

moose man

 

[spinlondon]

Bung in an RCBO.

 

[moose man]

thanks for that but its as a old cu might not be able to get a rcbo to fit

 

[kme]

Standalone unit in the line?

Maybe even RCD fused spur just outside the CU ( is it a seperate cct?)

 

[moose man]

its spured of the ring circuit

 

[kme]

Right. So you ideally want an RCBo either in the CU, or adjacent to it. You can use 6mm to the RCBo, and the existing ring from the RCBo onwards.

 

[kme]

If you wanted/needed to, you could use an IP spur in the bathroom?

 

[moose man]

If you wanted/needed to, you could use an IP spur in the bathroom?

thanks for the replys i did think about going down the road of your last post

but not sure of excisting circuits being protected

would this be classed as a mwc

 

[Chr!s]

thay have taken bath out and put a shower in with a cubical

Is this an electric shower?

Is the boiler within a compartment?

 

[moose man]

Hi plumber

It is a electric shower and the boiler is on the wall with no compartment around it

 

[Chr!s]

Is there an rcd protecting the shower?

Is the boiler inside any of the zones?

 

[moose man]

The shower is not rcd protected thay said it as been installed some years ago

and the boiler is on the edge of zone 2

 

[kme]

From the sounds of it, there isn`t RCD protection, so the shower isn`t installed to manufacturers spec. (probably).

Boiler just outside Z2, iirc

I wasn`t suggesting an RCD fused spur, mate. You`d still need RCD protection on that cct; as well as the shower & lighting circuit (unless you`re going to do the supp. bonding?)

Query recommend CU upgrade to 17th / hi-integ.??

 

[moose man]

i can feel a cu change come on hear as none compliance of exsisting circuits within that area but thay might say its been like it for years

the lighing is selv

 

[kme]

Now we get to the area of "how good are you at selling the necessary upgrades" versus "what do they want you to do there, anyway"?

If they want works done which you feel do not have an impact on the existingbathroom wiring, note it on the cert. ; unless you can convince them to have it upgraded for safety. i.e:

"it`s been like that for years"

" Yes, but it hasn`t been SAFE for years; and a small fault with the shower / lighting / boiler could prove fatal".

In the real world, it comes down to your conscience, and what you feel is necessary for safety. If they refuse to have it done, advise them that you HAVE to make a notification on their certificate of the dangers in the bathroom, and back it up with a covering letter when you issue the cert.

KME

 

[moose man]

i replaced some socket fronts in the living room for them

as you said to cover my self i have noted about protection for basic and fault protection in other areas on the mwc