can i give a testing and inspection cert for domestic

[Lee321]

I'm an approved jib spark with 236 1&2 am1&2 & 2391

is any nic registration needed?

 

[a1]

There's also Napit and the other one, umm Elsca? or a word to that effect.

You can go through your LABC too.

 

[a1]

PS. Welcome to the forum.

 

[NWDS]

come on admin you know its ELECSA, or you could use ECA ( both the same mother company and some one mentioned nappit had been purchased ), I have spoken to all of them at trade fairs and on the phone ELECSA made all the right noises with me.

Regards NWDS

 

[extension15]

I'm an approved jib spark with 236 1&2 am1&2 & 2391is any nic registration needed?

Welcome lostit register with whoever you feel comfortable with...

Elesca are the easiest going of the (scheming) bunch....

:x

 

[Lee321]

so i do need to be registered with a body?

 

[extension15]

so i do need to be registered with a body?

Only for domestic work (but good for business anyway)...

 

[a1]

Or you could notify each notifiable job through your Local Area Building Control. = Costly.

 

[extension15]

Or you could notify each notifiable job through your Local Area Building Control. = Costly.

Indeed so Admin..

 

[Theorysparky]

Or you could notify each notifiable job through your Local Area Building Control. = Costly.

depends where you are......

http://www.talk.electricianforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=671&highlight=labc

and whether you are going to do lots of notifiable work

 

[norv]

Originally Posted by lostit so i do need to be registered with a body?

Only for domestic work (but good for business anyway)...

If you only have to be reg'd for domestic, how do you do commercial or industrial work?

 

[professional]

You carry out the work as normal but not as a member of a scheme (which may only be a requirement of some customers)

 

[norv]

Sorry to hijak this thread, but I have turned work down because I am only reg'd as a DI. If I wanted to do commercial or Industrial how do I stand & what certs do I use or do I use Building control ?

 

[batty]

Norv

At present time anyone can do industrial/commercial work but as most of it is three phase it is not a good idea to do this work without any experience. You don't get two chances with 415 volts. You use the same certificates but do not have to notify council.

batty

 

[Mr Sworld]

Sorry to hijak this thread, but I have turned work down because I am only reg'd as a DI. If I wanted to do commercial or Industrial how do I stand & what certs do I use or do I use Building control ?

This is the stupid thing about Part P. I'm a qualified Spark on industrial work. I work on 400A 3 phase systems, we have 11KV transformers on site. However I'm not allowed to apply my knowledge to single phase 80A domestic supplies without going through LABC or the part P clubs.

Commercial and industrial means learning a lot about different methods of installation, conduit, trunking and cable ladders play a big part. The on-site guide, while handy, doesn't really apply. You will be working to a electrical engineers designs so you need to be able to translate electrical drawings to the job and change them as necessary to fit the build.

Motors and three-phase systems require you to know your starter star/delta systems.

Don't get me wrong, it's a really interesting job. And you get to work on serious designs that you'll gain huge amounts of experience.

 

[kme]

Would agree with Mr. S here:

I do all (dom/comm/ind). Domestic is "bread & butter" stuff - not quite a "one size fits all" - but close ( except for the occasional "specialist" job)

commercial; and especially industrial - more challenging. As has been said, 400V is a different animal to 230v, yet I prefer it, as I get to use more of my experience / knowledge in the design & construction stages.

I&T is also MUCH more involved; not many domestic deal with multiple submains and DB`s.

We registered with NIC; as BOTH Approved contractors & Domestic Installers. If you ONLY reg as DI; you can still DO any of them, legally; but most companies aren`t likely to consider using a domestic installer in a non-domestic environment.

 

[norv]

Thanks for clearing that up. I dont think I would get involved with major ind work on my own, motors etc, but Ive had calls, just to add a few sockets or lights or do the odd maintenance job, its all work at the end of the day.

Wouldnt it be better printing off a EIC & using that rather than using the DI ones ?

 

[kme]

Technically, yes.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Thanks for clearing that up. I dont think I would get involved with major ind work on my own, motors etc, but Ive had calls, just to add a few sockets or lights or do the odd maintenance job, its all work at the end of the day.Wouldnt it be better printing off a EIC & using that rather than using the DI ones ?

As KME says you should not use Certs with DI heading/logo for commercial / Ind work..

either..

print your own based on 76751 model forms..

Use some no-logo's software certs..

Or could buy the plain green, general use, EIC certs from NICEIC with no logo on the top.

Your DI certs are basically saying that your scheme provider asses you in that field of work and provides the added assurance to the customer that both you and your scheme provided could be pursued in the event of poor workmanship!

In fact I have a feeling that using your headed & logoed certs in an incorrect application could result in possible discipline from the said providers! :|