Certificate For A Conservatory

[Evans Electric]

Must be the only one then Mate ....never seen any last round here .....most appear once only.

And whats with the new Avatar ...is it The mad Doc. from "Back to the Future"?

 

[Lurch]

And whats with the new Avatar ...is it The mad Doc. from "Back to the Future"?

Looks like the man on the moon.

 

[steptoe]

It's the guy from the john Lewis advert, the original version before they edited it,    

 

[M107]

So no heating is allowed, but we can leave it as a massive haetsink though. If this is correct then I am officially throwing my hands up and starting a new career as a window cleaner, or milkman.

Fireman I think you'll find is the normal occupation Lurchio

 

[pewter]

heating not allowed in a conservatory?

Even when there a permenant opening to the conservatory? letting out all the heat from the house.

i have done a bit for a few conservatory companies over the years,  all were disorganised and put little planning into the electrical instalation. Including the one i did work for today.

 

[ProDave]

Deliberately, vague as I'm not doing the work, I just NEED to ensure that the installer does not compromise the existing install.

I might end up being paid to go and I&T the lot after as an "expert witness" anyway.

It sounds to me like you know the installer and don't trust them to do it right.  I am sure you will tell more when you are ready.

 

[Sidewinder]

Not quite PD, I know the property, I have done electrical works there, but not for the resident.

I am concerned about the ramifications for the remainder of the installation if the conservatory people get it wrong.

 

[ProDave]

Not quite PD, I know the property, I have done electrical works there, but not for the resident.

I am concerned about the ramifications for the remainder of the installation if the conservatory people get it wrong.

Why would it be YOUR concern?

I guess you did previous work there. As long as it was safe when you left it, you are not responsible if an incompetent electrician comes and messes it up.

 

[Sidewinder]

I know that it's not my responsibility, but, I will be going back to the property in about a year to do a maintenance check.

I am concerned for my customer financially, and the property resident with regard to safety.

Think about the domestic work that I do, not quite domestic as such is it!

 

[Andy™]

most of the time its all wired as a radial from a fused spur connected to nearest socket, so MWC. 2nd for UFH unless its also from same circuit

 

[Murdoch]

Deliberately, vague as I'm not doing the work, I just NEED to ensure that the installer does not compromise the existing install.

I might end up being paid to go and I&T the lot after as an "expert witness" anyway.

Why do you think this? Are they cowboys?

 

[NozSpark]

Why do you think this? Are they cowboys?

Conservatory installers,,,,,, say no more

I had one fitted on a job that I used for an assessment... I had no part to play with the conservatory BTW..... The main thing that both I and my assessor observed was that the cables had to have been installed out of zones due to where they took power from and where the first socket was.... We told the homeowner who couldn't have given a chuff,,, same as the installers

 

[Essex1]

SW - You are hiding something I know it!!!!!

You know full well what is required here by means of certification........  Come on, spill the beans.

 

[Sidewinder]

Essex, yes I am, I'm not doing it to take the p***, I'm not giving too much away as I don't want to taint people's opinions.

Please, just humour me for a little longer.

It goes a little deeper than the certifications, I used that as a tester, I admit, that it may not be the best wording!!!

I am concerned that as Murdoch suggests they may be cowboys, many are, I don't as yet know who they are.

I am concerned that they will muck it up and compromise the existing installation and the work that I have just done there.

Why am I concerned as my work is done & my cert's issued.

I work hard with my customer to get our work right first time for both of our benefit, that is my customer & I.

We try to do the work in a single day, this job, we had 5 guys in the house for the day to get it done.

We over engineer it and design in reliability and redundant protection to minimise potential issues for my customer as they are pretty much on call 24/365 for the work.

I do a lot of work behind the scenes developing solutions for the work, and preparing things, holding stock so that the jobs go in on time and are right first time because there is a lot riding on them.

We stopped doing them at the end of last month until the New Year to eliminate any potential problems over the Christmas period.

Neither myself nor my customer wants call outs at that time.

Now they have already (today) offered to pay me to inspect the works to ensure that they won't compromise the existing installation.

However, I don't really, want to do that, as I don't really feel that they should pay for it, as it's not their liability.

Plus, the other issue, is that neither my customer nor I have any real authority to force the resident, nor the installer to do anything.

Then there is the issue that, IF, I find something wrong, after the fact, then someone has to put it right, more disruption for the resident, and inconvenience and potential cost for my client.

 

[NozSpark]

So,,, when you did your work you tapped off the kitchen socket circuit??? and this new addition could directly affect that?

 

[Jono Pashley]

:innocent   :slap   :coat

I know too much so i shall be quiet 

 

[Sidewinder]

There is only one ring final circuit in the property IIRC.

Our work will all run off a 13A fuse, so no more load than already allowed for on the existing ring.

Yes shut up Jono, or I'll ban you!  

 

[kerching]

Could this be a "spur off the moment thing"?

 

[Rob_the_rich]

Iron lung?

 

[Sidewinder]

Iron lung?

Close but no cigar!