Certificate Questions (Trying To Do It Right)

[OnOff]

Hi, you might have read elsewhere on here that next week I have EDF coming to disconnect / reconnect so I can fit an REC isolator. Apologies (and thanks) for those of you have read this already and already commented on some of it. I

 

[NozSpark]

I've done something like this before

On your EIC the work is "dead testing prior to reconnection of supply"

In your limitations box put "dead testing only carried out"

Then "LIM" every live test box and fill out the dead tests as much as you can

If you are having them install a new main switch then that will be the main switch type

If you can make it so they can do the job in one go then they'll be well happy,,, TBH all you'll need to fit is a main switch and incomming tails for them to connect, they will then disconnect your old installation and hook up the new main switch which you can re connect to later on

TBH I would doubt that they will even look at the cert you are doing, but to be on the safe side I'd do one just incase you get a jobs worth

 

[OnOff]

I've done something like this beforeOn your EIC the work is "dead testing prior to reconnection of supply"

In your limitations box put "dead testing only carried out"

Then "LIM" every live test box and fill out the dead tests as much as you can

If you are having them install a new main switch then that will be the main switch type

If you can make it so they can do the job in one go then they'll be well happy,,, TBH all you'll need to fit is a main switch and incomming tails for them to connect, they will then disconnect your old installation and hook up the new main switch which you can re connect to later on

TBH I would doubt that they will even look at the cert you are doing, but to be on the safe side I'd do one just incase you get a jobs worth

Cheers for the quick response! I am supplying and fitting the new isolator and tails - they won't, odd in that BG do! Assume "my" REC switch will be the "Main Switch Or Circuit Breaker" then.

 

[NozSpark]

Yep

 

[ccfc]

Hello onoff

Cant understand why you are having so much trouble getting a isolator fitted. I live in the midlands and have had approx 20 isolators fitted by central networks usually by eon but siemens as well. Various companies eon,npoewr,bgas.

Never had to supply certificates to show what is being connnected to. They usually upgrade their tails from cut out to meter and then to islator and reconnect customers existing tails , so i can do my bit when i like.They usually take 1/2 hr job done.

 

[Zeespark]

When I had My isolator fitted (TT to TNCS conversion) the DNO didnt ask for an EIC here, they simply resited the head, wired in the energy meter, then the DP switch, sealed their side of it, job done.

AndyGuinness

 

[OnOff]

Hello onoffCant understand why you are having so much trouble getting a isolator fitted. I live in the midlands and have had approx 20 isolators fitted by central networks usually by eon but siemens as well. Various companies eon,npoewr,bgas.

Never had to supply certificates to show what is being connnected to. They usually upgrade their tails from cut out to meter and then to islator and reconnect customers existing tails , so i can do my bit when i like.They usually take 1/2 hr job done.

There were a few comments before I went down this route that EDF were a bit more difficult that others if you wanted an isolator fitted. One guy on here had BG come out I think the morning after he contacted them. I did try BG but am not a customer (yet!), not only did the BG know what he was talking about he said "If you were a customer I would have sent an engineer out to you!". Got the feeling I wouldn't have had to wait that long either! Guess I'm just lucky!

 

[ccfc]

In my experiance ive had to get the customer to speak to their supplier to allow me to speak to them ,in case im impersonating the customer and im tricking them into fitting a isolator for fun lol, and they arrange with dno to have isolator fitted but for main fuse upgrades or anything to do with service head ,cables etc its straight to dno.

Cheers

Neil

 

[OnOff]

In my experiance ive had to get the customer to speak to their supplier to allow me to speak to them ,in case im impersonating the customer and im tricking them into fitting a isolator for fun lol, and they arrange with dno to have isolator fitted but for main fuse upgrades or anything to do with service head ,cables etc its straight to dno. Cheers

Neil

Weird how in some cases the DNO get involved for the isolator but in my case its the supplier! Talking of the Main Fuse, mine is a BS1361 BUT the label is half torn - all that's left is..........0A so it could be 80A or 100A. The property is an old small holding. Be interesting to find out what it is when the guy gets here.

 

[ccfc]

Could even be 60 amp.

 

[OnOff]

Could even be 60 amp.

Good point! Which makes my question from above I guess more important:

"For

 

[Sidewinder]

Put 100A as maximum demand if you have an electric shower & electric cooker.

Noz is "almost" right!

The "official" C&G & Scam answer is to put Not Applicable as in N/A or NA in the boxes where you cannot do the tests and Noz has suggested Lim.

Lim is not acceptable on an EIC only a PIR.

As you are dead testing only prior to connection of supply then the live tests are Not Applicable, not limitations of the inspection.

There may be other things that are not applicable too.

e.g. you can only obtain a Ze by enquiry for that cert, until you get the power back on.

 

[OnOff]

Put 100A as maximum demand if you have an electric shower & electric cooker.Noz is "almost" right!

The "official" C&G & Scam answer is to put Not Applicable as in N/A or NA in the boxes where you cannot do the tests and Noz has suggested Lim.

Lim is not acceptable on an EIC only a PIR.

As you are dead testing only prior to connection of supply then the live tests are Not Applicable' date=' not limitations of the inspection.

There may be other things that are not applicable too.

e.g. you can only obtain a Ze by enquiry for that cert, until you get the power back on.[/quote']

No leccy shower just the hob. TT system, I can get Ze by measurement can't I? Main earthing disconnected then clip on that and probes on the incoming side of the stand alone RCD (with the RCD off of course). That's how I've done it before...............

 

[ccfc]

Id put N/V not verified and note reason why on cert eg not connected to supply. N/A means it is not applicable for the installation covered by cert.Do dead tests. Then when power back on do live tests on a seperate schedule of test results and cross reference to dead test results and staple together. Job done.

Cheers

Neil

 

[Sidewinder]

No leccy shower just the hob. TT system, I can get Ze by measurement can't I? Main earthing disconnected then clip on that and probes on the incoming side of the stand alone RCD (with the RCD off of course). That's how I've done it before...............

Onoff,

You can get a Ze prior to disconnection and record it.

You can get a Ze after reconnection.

You "officially" can't get a Ze when disconnected by measurement.

As the EIC you are completing is for testing between disconnection & reconnection, then you can't actually get a measured Ze at this time for the install can you! ]

 

[OnOff]

Onoff,You can get a Ze prior to disconnection and record it.

You can get a Ze after reconnection.

You "officially" can't get a Ze when disconnected by measurement.

As the EIC you are completing is for testing between disconnection & reconnection, then you can't actually get a measured Ze at this time for the install can you! ]

Fair point, as in if I did Ze before the disconnection it would be a tad pointless other than out of interest. By installing the REC isolator I will have in effect made an addition to the install along with any new tails so it needs to be done afterwards!