Commercial Electrical Testing

[thewiz]

Hello, 

Just wondering if you have to register with a scam in order to carry out electrical testing (not a inspection) on a commercial property as a 3rd party contractor? 

As i am aware scams are for PART P only ?? 

Cheeers 

 

[Steve3948]

How do you test and not inspect ?

The two go together.

 

[Sharpend]

It's a results grabbing exercise. One man installs another grabs results?

 

[Steve3948]

Well thats my point you must inspect before you test for many reasons.

You could inspect and not test, visual only.

 

[thewiz]

lol what i mean is its not a full inspection. its new system so there fore all regulations should be met already, obviously will look for any that have been missed or bad workman ship. 

They company have installed the electrical system but have asked us to carry out the dead tests. 

 

[Sharpend]

Dodgy if you ask me, I'd be inclined to fully inspect and test, are they wanting you to put your name to it?

 

[kerching]

NICCY bloke years ago told me that Visuals were a waste of time AND if you felt the need to do them then leave ALL test gear in the Van EVERYTHING

Merely mentioning in passing

 

[Sharpend]

Does that include the neon screwdriver used to take the plate fronts off as well?!

Just clarifying for those who know not what they do...........

 

[thewiz]

Ye i understand that. Any way could i sub this work to electricians who are not registered with a scam but have relevant testing qualifications ?

 

[Sharpend]

Are you expecting a subby to sign it off, utilising their insurance cover? Expect a full test/inspect with a full price.

 

[Steve3948]

I thought NIC had a visual only certificate for use with landlords and such, swear I have 10 on the PC, will check later.

 

[thewiz]

No, we will be singing it off... just need other tester to test as its quite a lot ...... 16 BDs 

As they are not on our books do they need to be resisted with a scam to carry out the testing ?

yes they do steve 

 

[kerching]

Does that include the neon screwdriver used to take the plate fronts off as well?!.....he implied that a visual was just that LOOKING only

Just clarifying for those who know not what they do...........

  

I thought NIC had a visual only certificate for use with landlords and such, swear I have 10 on the PC, will check later.

They used to do a visual form years ago I think, never used one though

 

[Steve3948]

Hence why I still have 10 unallocated cert numbers on the PC

 

[thewiz]

sooooo. what do u think??? 

 

[kerching]

sounds a 'bit moody' to me.

I cannot quite grasp why the Electricians that installed the cables , DBs, accessories etc [and assuming they connected them as well] cannot test what they have installed,    surely the dead tests would be done prior to connection

merely commenting

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

The 'visual landlords inspection' (insert the words you want)  came about as an interim check between 'proper'  inspections. Its mentioned in GN3 as  rental properties are meant to have an inspection every 12 months & change of occupancy.  So if the previous paperwork  for a full test & inspection is shown then  a visual is acceptable but only then.

 

[thewiz]

nor do i> this is what i have been asked to quote for. No one seems to of answered my original question as of yet?? 

Do you need to be registered with a scam to carry out testing in a commercial premises??

As far as i am aware nothing has been powered up, waiting for dead test results witch i have been asked to do. 

 

[Manator]

Do you need to be registered with a scam to carry out testing in a commercial premises??

No

However I would look very closely at the insurance documents for the premises.

 

[Sidewinder]

It's a workplace, so workplace laws apply.

No scam membership is needed, however, the "persons" undertaking the work must be competent under statute law to undertake this work.

The customer insurance policy (contract of insurance), does need to be consulted.

To do a 3rd party I & T of an install will need the full design specification documentation, to ensure that it is in compliance with the original design.

Noting all other statue law requirements.