Anyone have to hand , the comparative SWA sizes to copper cable . I have them but cannot find them . ( And I'm getting really fed up )
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Comparative sizes for SWA
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Sharpend
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Don’t go by the wirenuts table, it is wrong. E54 used to go loopy about the table and so provided the correct values which agree with this.
https://www.dungannonelectrical.co.uk/dun1-shop/pdf/cable/SWA.pdf
https://www.dungannonelectrical.co.uk/dun1-shop/pdf/cable/SWA.pdf
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Is that in the Regs then ? I didn't know the Regs covered that , thought it was just manufacturers TBH . If its in the 17th I'll check it out . Guidance note 8 you reckon ?
I'm filling in what feels like 5000 EICR's ...the 8 page ones .
Blew ourselves up this morning by NOT double checking with the testers :C During EICR , open up a TPN welding socket , measure Zs , switch off MCB ...(we know its the right one , can see the cable) ..... I shout "Its off" ..my mate shouts " Brown to Earth" for R1 R2 ..I stick the prods in at the board , the warning light comes on the meter .....before I can shout again my mate shorts out Brown to Earth and BANG !!!
Although the correct MCB is off . only 2 phases are switching .
Thank you everyone for the results.
I'm filling in what feels like 5000 EICR's ...the 8 page ones .
Blew ourselves up this morning by NOT double checking with the testers :C During EICR , open up a TPN welding socket , measure Zs , switch off MCB ...(we know its the right one , can see the cable) ..... I shout "Its off" ..my mate shouts " Brown to Earth" for R1 R2 ..I stick the prods in at the board , the warning light comes on the meter .....before I can shout again my mate shorts out Brown to Earth and BANG !!!
Although the correct MCB is off . only 2 phases are switching .
Thank you everyone for the results.
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Sidey I give up ... can't see any reference to Guidance notes . I'd appreciate the "official version" although I've used the above for the sake of the report.
I'm coming across this in this updated EICR book .... " Conformation that SPD(s) are functional . " :C I'm thinking some nasty disease , can someone enlighten me as to what an SPD is I've only been in the trade for 50 odd years , bit slow with all these acronyms TBH .
Sharpend
"It Just Is"
Surge protection device
Next year you’ll have an AFDD - A F***King Dumb Device I think Tony described it as?
Next year you’ll have an AFDD - A F***King Dumb Device I think Tony described it as?
Risteard
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I'll have to ask. Why are you conducting an (R1+R2) test having already verified cpc continuity through a live Zs test in an already energised installation?
Sharpend
"It Just Is"
Does a zs verify the circuit earth or merely an earth path of some descript.!
Because the EICR book asks for it . I always considered it was a waste of time but I don't print the books :C
I'll look forward to that . ...........not.
How have we managed without them ?
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I assumed Guidance Note 8 would be in the Regs Sidey . I 've always used the one that Sharpend posted but now don' t seem to have .
But now I don't know where these Guidance notes are , been scanning through earthing etc .
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Risteard
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It is accepted as a means of verifying it on an already energised system. Dead testing is essential for initial verification as you need to verify it is safe to connect to the supply. For an EICR the supply is already connected. GN3 states that it is an acceptable method therefore to verify cpc continuity on an energised installation.
It doesn't. The Schedule of Test Results is common to all reports and certificates (MEIWC excepted). Nowhere does it state that every test must be done for an EICR - it just needs to be agreed with the client what you are doing and what you are not doing.
It just needs remembered that filling out boxes for the sake of it achieves precisely nothing.
How am I supposed to know that ? These things from NICEIC are now 8 pages , we have to move it around the site on a fork lift .
If they don't want that info why are they including it .
They also want all the BS numbers but on this job some are old cast Bill / MEM rewirable stuff ......I for one am not prepared to start tracing ancient British Standards on 60 yr old accessories . If the Electric Police are desperate to know they can sort it themselves .
If they don't want that info why are they including it .
They also want all the BS numbers but on this job some are old cast Bill / MEM rewirable stuff ......I for one am not prepared to start tracing ancient British Standards on 60 yr old accessories . If the Electric Police are desperate to know they can sort it themselves .
Rest assured I'm the last person to be ticking boxes for the sake of it....I'm as fond of paperwork as Stepps is :innocent
