Wow and I thought it would be a good idea to try and gain some knowledge on here, guess I was wrong, cant help being a 'pen pusher' if no one will let me observe them practically, I wont give up trying, just hope I dont deal with many more people like you lot, definitely know how to take the wind out of someones sails, later!
Hello sambo88, let me just try and explain a few things from a different angle...
Firstly I think I would be right in saying that everyone on the forum has some respect and good wishes for anyone who tries to better themselves....
gain extra skills and qualifications and put there own time and money into making themselves more salable in the workplace....
So I hope you get out of the course what you are hoping for.... Guinness
But a few reality checks you must be aware of... nothing about knocking wind out of sails, but also not giving overly optimistic replies...
Fact 1: All of these training companies that you pay for learning.. are business that are out there to make a profit...
and just like the car salesman at the garage they will only try and sell the positives of their product...
Thats the way business works.. No salesman advertises the weakest points of their product!!!!
Fact 2: it is relatively easy to sell theoretic knowledge and teach people how to pass a few exams..
to learn a genuine skill and trade is a much longer process and guaranteeing hands on practical experience is a rather more valuable commodity...
Fact 3: Any person who is running a small business has a lot of legal obligations
and liabilities that they have to accommodate within their daily work practice....
(far more than years ago when things were a bit more relaxed)
Fact 4: working with electricity is an invisible product that can kill a healthy adult or cause fires to burn down a property....
if done wrong and blame can be proved there are very severe consequences for some mistakes...
Its not like working with a painter or carpenter learning a few decorating skills!!
Fact 5: There is proven clear evidence throughout this industry of incompetence and very poor quality training by some training establishments.
Fact 6: Any good electrician who has worked hard to establish their own business would think very hard about who, or if, they take on as a trainee, mate, or partner etc.. as points 3, 4 & 5 could wipe out all they have worked hard to establish.
Fact 7: 90%+ of job allocations comes down to WHO you know not WHAT you know!!...
So people who know you as a person are more likely to use your skills rather than a stranger selecting you based on some qualifications.
Summary:-
I started working for myself in 1999, now in my 15th year and personally I would be very unlikely to utilise any one in a situation such as yourself unless I have a few years prior experience of the person concerned....
Its too much of a risk & liability for my business...
I know that doesn't help you much...
But a bit of truth and reality can help put a few things into perspective....
Hope you can prove me wrong and get yourself sorted...
but dont give up at the first few set backs....
persistence and determination are needed to succeed in many walks of life!
Guinness
sambo,
the bit you fail to grasp is this,
you will most likely cost someone time to allow you to 'help' or observe, and the point being, time is money.
you have felt unaggrieved paying for the theory, why do you feel it should be any different for the practical.?
Sadly tho Sam, this 'lot' are right.
I tell yo what there has barely been a day gone by since I joined this forum that I havent seen a new 'Willing to work for free' thread appear on here. Strangekly enough, not too many of them get takenm up on thier offer.
If only people would do the research and ask on places like this BEFORE paying out shedloads on a short (or long) course.........
Now, having said that, i did a short course to get started in this trade back in 2008 i did the 2330 lvl 2, 5 years later and a lot of learning ( both real world and in the classroom) and I still dont call myself an electrician. Guess what? My college also told me how so many of their students were doing alright a fter taking teh course, thats a coincedence eh?
Dont forget, lecturers need work too
Much Wisdom spoken here by two forum members from very opposite ends of the electrical trade training spectrum I think...... but spot the similarities!!!!
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