First loop tester I used only measured loop, you had to calculate pscc, although it had a graph on the back for a quick ready reckoner if it wasn't borderline.
Do you have a Licence to Practice ? Looks like you'll be needing one.
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A lot of people say this but never actually charge this and just assume they cannot. Why can't you charge this? Are you not good enough, do you only jobs for poor people?
Can that rate be justified I ask the gathered Forumites , in all honesty .
If he did a weeks work for you @ 40 hrs,say, it would be £2435.00
I'd never win a job if I quoted that hourly rate Lurch , in fact none of us would I shouldn't think.
I'm talking about bog standard installation sparkying commercial / industrial. domestic here , NOT the sort of stuff Sidey & Canoey do.
There are Brickies , plasterers & chippies round here who charge less than that a day .
That's not how it works though. I can/have charged £40-60 per hour plus callout. That's not 40 hour a week type work though, it's really only emergency rates. There's also the way you price jobs, I have been on way more than £60 per hour on some jobs, but they might have only been for a day, or less, or not a full week necessarily anyway.
I very much doubt that plumber is doing 40 hrs per week at £60 p/h.
Who says I don;t also do that? (I do).
My apologies , I didn't read your profile.
Nothing new here. Several other countries already doing it and only a matter of time. In NZ I first had to become 'registered' by producing my credentials and doing a regs course and a practical assessement (probably a bit like the AM2) I then had to do A first aid and CPR course along with a refresher course every year in order to get my practicing licence which cost about $100NZ - some employers paid for it, others did not.
The thing is "THEY" will want to be policing this and making the trade pay for it when we do in reality , already have the credentials .
How do prove we are bona fide sparks at the moment ?
Some of us have a card from one of the scams , NICEIC, NAPPITT etc.
Some of us have a JIB card (Which has been one of the criteria , certainly since the 1960s ) (In the contracting world)
Some in industry could produce C&Gs etc
Some can produce degrees in elect. eng . etc
Some could show they served a basic apprenticship , have a basic C&Gs
And the Electric Police could issue a "Licence" based on those things for a nominal/ one off fee and we wouldn't be made to fund the excercise .
Hands up those who think they will ever happen .................. come on ...must be someone ................. that bloke at the back !!! ...Oh he wants the toilet....no one then ?
How do prove we are bona fide sparks at the moment ?
Some of us have a card from one of the scams , NICEIC, NAPPITT etc.
Some of us have a JIB card (Which has been one of the criteria , certainly since the 1960s ) (In the contracting world)
Some in industry could produce C&Gs etc
Some can produce degrees in elect. eng . etc
Some could show they served a basic apprenticship , have a basic C&Gs
And the Electric Police could issue a "Licence" based on those things for a nominal/ one off fee and we wouldn't be made to fund the excercise .
Hands up those who think they will ever happen .................. come on ...must be someone ................. that bloke at the back !!! ...Oh he wants the toilet....no one then ?
pewter
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ties in with the latest deal at NICEIC and JIB who will let you be AC installer for 3 years then give you a JIB gold card. You can even accept AC status and get assessed a year later.
Proper modern building sites might only allow those to do what the card says they can do.
I know some collage route non NVQ guys who are fantastic, i know plenty of 'proper' NVQ apprentice electricians who have amazing skills in avoiding work, making up test results, passing the buck, sleeping on the job, stealing from the job, doing as little as possible. Having the JIB gold card does not mean the holder is any good in my opinion.
In the real world, no one contracting an electrician or plumber to do a job would ever check there card, know what to look for if they did, and propably not care if they got £50 off anyway. People who dont know what they are doing are still doing electrical work, better a 5WW then a Polish bloke who once worked with a spark for a couple weeks.
Most people i speak to cant get a decent spark to do anything, if they can they have to wait as all us good guys are busy. If the supply of electricians was restricted and cost more the rich people will not be happy. I can not see it happening either.
Proper modern building sites might only allow those to do what the card says they can do.
I know some collage route non NVQ guys who are fantastic, i know plenty of 'proper' NVQ apprentice electricians who have amazing skills in avoiding work, making up test results, passing the buck, sleeping on the job, stealing from the job, doing as little as possible. Having the JIB gold card does not mean the holder is any good in my opinion.
In the real world, no one contracting an electrician or plumber to do a job would ever check there card, know what to look for if they did, and propably not care if they got £50 off anyway. People who dont know what they are doing are still doing electrical work, better a 5WW then a Polish bloke who once worked with a spark for a couple weeks.
Most people i speak to cant get a decent spark to do anything, if they can they have to wait as all us good guys are busy. If the supply of electricians was restricted and cost more the rich people will not be happy. I can not see it happening either.
It's what the ECS used to call a supervisor or QS card, for which you could apply for after 3 years of being a QS.
But nicey jumped on board and made it their own. it must be registered with a company or its invalid so if you are paye its useless if you leave your job.
Not a proper gold card and will probably become less valuable than a labourers card. just a way of increasing the gravy flow for those above.
