Domestic Installer and Approved Contractor - What's the difference?

[Dambo]

Hi guys,

I've looked into the difference between these two but it's still not entirely clear. I was just wondering if someone could tell me in layman's terms what each is for?

 

[Risteard]

Approved Contractors are approved by the NICEIC to carry out all types of installation work.

 

[sparkytim]

Domestic installers are not

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

The approved contractor is the bog standard traditionally recognised contractor who was in existence before Part-P was even a twinkle in anybody's eye!

It is one of the industry standard methods of recognising contractors abilities along with ECA, which many councils / schools etc.. request membership of for work in their properties.. It encompasses full industrial 3-phase work!

The Domestic installer scheme was introduced specifically for the requirements of Part P, to assist recognition of contractors who rarely or never undertake commercial 3-phase work, and who specialise in domestic electrical work.

Approved contractors need to show examples of commercial work during their assessments whereas Domestic installers are purely domestic installation work.

 

[Dambo]

Cheers Special Location!

So in summary domestic installers cover domestic work only and approved contractors cover domestic, commercial and industrial work i.e. the whole 9 yards!

 

[Risteard]

So in summary domestic installers cover domestic work

Such a crazy world we live in! ; \

 

[Dambo]

Such a crazy world we live in! ; \

I realised how silly that sounded once i'd posted it! :coat

 

[Risteard]

I realised how silly that sounded once i'd posted it! :coat

You're alright I enjoyed reading it!

 

[a1spark]

Cheers Special Location! So in summary domestic installers cover domestic work only and approved contractors cover domestic, commercial and industrial work i.e. the whole 9 yards!

Yes and incidentally an Approved Contractor can also be a Domestic Installer.

Another point is an Approved Contractor can issue NICEIC PIRs

on Industrial-Commercial and Domestic Installations wheras a Domestic Installer is not Authorised to issue NICEIC PIRS on Industrial or Commercial and can only issue Domestic NICEIC PIRs if seperately assessed and upon payment of additional enrolement fees [Domestic Periodic Reporting Scheme}.......Part P Self Certification is to blame for this confusing state of affairs !

 

[sparkytim]

Concur

And it didn't cost us a thing when Part P came in to ADD DI.

 

[Voltimax]

But a DI can still do everything an approved contractor can, just that they can't do it on NICEIC headed paper

 

[sparkytim]

Especially if they are with NAPIT ROTFWL

 

[Voltimax]

Especially if they are with NAPIT ROTFWL

Not for long sunshine

 

[sparkytim]

Coming back home then?

 

[Voltimax]

If they'll have me

 

[sparkytim]

I will put in a good word for You and order the banner!

:Welcome:

 

[Voltimax]

Many thanks fellow East Anglian

 

[Dambo]

Is the certification required for carrying out PIRs different to that required for testing someone else's electrical work?

 

[Apache]

Is the certification required for carrying out PIRs different to that required for testing someone else's electrical work?

A PIR is the only legitimate means of testing someone else's work.

 

[sparkytim]

Is the certification required for carrying out PIRs different to that required for testing someone else's electrical work?

The only "someone else's work" you can test and certify is that which you have supervised and seen all stages of including 1st fix cable runs etc.

A PIR is a REPORT on an existing installation and does not include ANY certification.