Electricains Pay

[tinhead]

simple question. Ive been working as a electricain for 10 years now and I get payed £8 per hour. is this fair 

 

[steptoe]

I know some sparks arent worth as much as that,

others that are worth 5 times it,

is that what either of those get paid? nope,

are you happy with that amount? doesnt sound like you are,

only you can change that, what is the market rate in your area?

 

[NozSpark]

That would depend on a lot of information which you haven't provided.

Such as when you gat paid from and until, if you have a company vehicle, your responsibilities, if your £8 per hour is before deductions or after

and last, but not least,,,, could you get a job that pays better?

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Fair carries no relevance what so ever without knowing what your terms of contract say... 

If that amount is equal to or greater than what you agreed in your contract to work for then yes it is fair....

If it is less than what your agreed terms of contract are then no it is not fair..

(and you may have grounds for complaint..)

BUT...

If you can get more doing the same job elsewhere then you are a fool for staying where you are...

If you cannot get more doing the same job elsewhere....

and there are lots of out of work sparks eager to jump in your place if you quit then...

market forces will probably dictate the pay structure..

 

[Zeespark]

I have just phoned up about a job as an electricians mate in Derby, all I would need to spend on travel is £15 a week, the job is paying £11 an hour, commercial work. I am just using that as an idea, where are you and what type of work is it?

Andy Guinness

 

[steptoe]

get in there Zee 

 

[ProDave]

In all my years as an employee, I found the No 1 way to get a pay rise was to threaten to leave. Of course to do that you had to get a genuine job offer from somewhere else offering more money, even if you had no intention of taking that other job.

 

[alpha spark]

I've just took a subby job at £10.50 an hour. And a 80 mile trip a day. Start Monday. Been quiet for 4 weeks now. Never known it to be so quiet. I thought the recession was over.

 

[Doc Hudson]

The latest figures I heard on the news today say that although there is a very small growth in the economy as a whole, the construction sector is still in decline. This will have an inevitable knock on effect with any new contracts in our industry. Certain sectors such as renewables will be stronger than traditional new build cable bashing.

Doc H.

 

[revjames]

JIB rate is £12.63/hr and thats before you go up to being an approved electrician or a technician.

 

[ParkySparky]

If you've been working as an electrician for 10 years then surly you have a rough idea of rates of pay???

Jib apprentices get more than £8 an hour!!!

Is this a wind up, surley it is!!!!

 

[ProDave]

There's always the option of self employment. Even here in the far north of the UK I get £20 per hour, those further south will probably get a lot more.

 

[binky]

even I pay more than £8 an hour, and for someone with 10 years experience I would have thought £12 min depending on testing abilities, which would take it higher.

 

[pewter]

Do you get any other bonus items like

Company van,

Company diesel,

Company clothing,

Company food and drink,

Company materials for private jobs,

start work at 2pm and get overtime from 4pm onwards,

can you book in for 10 hours but only do 4,

get paid for 24 hours a day even if you dont do anything,

do you get 6 months of paid holiday a year?

do you actually have to do any work or just hang around on stand by,

Is it at a good place to wirk like television X studios,

Or on a tropical island inhabited by horny women between the age of 18-88 that need testing and inspecting.

 

[revjames]

To earn JIB electricians rate you have to at least be able to spell 'Electrician'.......

To get Approved, you would also need to have grammar and punctuation.......

Technician rate? lets not go there....

 

[tinhead]

The only bonus I have ever had was £50 on xmas and a bottle of famous grouse. Even now for the last three years he doesnt get us any work clothes. He has never brought us any tools. No company vehicle. I know he charges his customers £15 per hour. As for hours I work till 9 in the morning till 6 and seven. Even the days we finish after 7. And I ask him if he pays overtime. His excuse is that we get to the job at 10. Basically he is applying that if the job is at a distance he doesnt need to pay us for being in the van while he drives. I have only got my 16th edition. People might say im stupid or ignorant but its all these things with the resession that makes me nervous to leave. And others tell me. At least you have a job. Im from birmingham..  The reason I ask this question is because Ive been there 10 years. So im blind to what is out there. I do need advise. it is a small company of 4. No company vehicle. 

 

[Sharpend]

Agencies generally pay £13 per hour? So at worst you may do less days/hrs but actually break even with take home pay?

Just thinking aloud !!!

 

[steptoe]

The only bonus I have ever had was £50 on xmas and a bottle of famous grouse. Even now for the last three years he doesnt get us any work clothes. He has never brought us any tools. No company vehicle. I know he charges his customers £15 per hour. As for hours I work till 9 in the morning till 6 and seven. Even the days we finish after 7. And I ask him if he pays overtime. His excuse is that we get to the job at 10. Basically he is applying that if the job is at a distance he doesnt need to pay us for being in the van while he drives. I have only got my 16th edition. People might say im stupid or ignorant but its all these things with the resession that makes me nervous to leave. And others tell me. At least you have a job. Im from birmingham..  The reason I ask this question is because Ive been there 10 years. So im blind to what is out there. I do need advise. it is a small company of 4. No company vehicle. 

well, far be it for me to judge,

but, I can only charge for actually working, not travelling, but, I simply add on my travelling charge to my overall price,

16th edition, some would argue then you are not currently an electrician, not currently qualified, BTW, depending on your actual job role it may NOT be down to your boss to ensure you have the current qualification required.

the bottom line is this,

can you get a better paying job?

without being funny, on your grammar it may well be difficult,

its fairly obvious you dont do testing and filling in test certs so that is another sector you are at a loss for doing, anyone I would be employing as a spark would be expected to do ALL their own testing etc.

it really does sound like you are working as a mate, in which case £8/hr may well be the rate where you are, round here it varies between 7-10£/hr for mates depending on the type of work,

what type of work are you doing?

 

[binky]

if your boss is charging £15 an hour (and if that isn't bull) it's no surprise you are on £8, and doesn't give any perks - you're in 'Lidl land' :^O

Being completely blunt, I would also say you are suffering from your own laziness - why the hell haven't you kept up to date with regs? You have to be 'on the ball' to get the best money, but either way, you are not being paid anything like you're true value - I paid my apprentice bettter than that in his 3rd year, and bought a van, and pay hid diesel, and supply t-shirts, and buy him tools for his birthday, and take everyone associated with the business out at xmas, and drive a rusty van, and never seem to have any money left..... O)   :^O    

 

[Doc Hudson]

The only bonus I have ever had was £50 on xmas and a bottle of famous grouse. Even now for the last three years he doesnt get us any work clothes. He has never brought us any tools. No company vehicle. I know he charges his customers £15 per hour. As for hours I work till 9 in the morning till 6 and seven. Even the days we finish after 7. And I ask him if he pays overtime. His excuse is that we get to the job at 10. Basically he is applying that if the job is at a distance he doesnt need to pay us for being in the van while he drives. I have only got my 16th edition. People might say im stupid or ignorant but its all these things with the resession that makes me nervous to leave. And others tell me. At least you have a job. Im from birmingham..  The reason I ask this question is because Ive been there 10 years. So im blind to what is out there. I do need advise. it is a small company of 4. No company vehicle. 

Every person who is employed in any job has to remember they are just another expense for that business, the employer has to consider how much value will this person bring to the business. Are they a good investment, can they get better value from more experienced staff elsewhere. Or does the business only need limited skills, so there is no need over training or employing anyone overqualified.

Try looking at it from the impression another employer may have of you if you were at an interview for a new job, They may ask you, as 17th edition has been current since 2008 (over 5 years) why haven't you updated your qualifications? Numerous colleges do evening courses in a wide range of C&G certificates?

Although many good employers do assist with ongoing training and qualifications, there is no obligation for any employer to pay for training. As the employee may then go and leave for employment elsewhere. It is up to the individual to keep themselves marketable and of value in the employment marketplace. If you are blind to what is out there then that does indicate a lack of motivation on your own part. industry press, newspapers, job-search websites and numerous other internet resources have been easily accessible to the average person for a very long time.

Under employment law providing you are receiving the minimum wage then it is legally fair. No good business manager would want to waste money by overpaying someone, but they will also suitably reward people who they want to motivate and keep working well for the business. Anything else is up to you to sell yourself and get something better if you can either with the same company or move on elsewhere.

Doc H.