Energy Class catagories

[Murdoch]

Can anybody help me understand the Energy Class categories?

Using this product:

https://www.toolstation.com/led-gls...&ranSiteID=pfxNKSnglIM-NfhK8ktnDp73mOpN1oRRew
According to the labeling its a "F"

So how can a LED bulb be an F for F sake?

 

[binky]

Can anybody help me understand the Energy Class categories?

Using this product:

https://www.toolstation.com/led-gls...&ranSiteID=pfxNKSnglIM-NfhK8ktnDp73mOpN1oRRew
According to the labeling its a "F"

So how can a LED bulb be an F for F sake?

Typo

 

[Murdoch]

Typo

whats a typo ?

another random example

https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-bc-a60-led-light-bulb-806lm-7-3w-5-pack/310pp

 

[Geoff1946]

There is an explanation in Wiki, though having skimmed through it I'm no wiser.
Appliances seem reasonably easy to understand, lamps less so. Perhaps another time when I've not had a drink .....

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Can anybody help me understand the Energy Class categories?

Using this product:

https://www.toolstation.com/led-gls...&ranSiteID=pfxNKSnglIM-NfhK8ktnDp73mOpN1oRRew
According to the labeling its a "F"

So how can a LED bulb be an F for F sake?

No....

But if you scroll down this Wiki artilce...
Energy ratings

it does explain some bits about how the energy ratings for lamps changed from Sept 2021...

Edit: I understood about as much as Geoff when I just skim-read!

 

[Murdoch]

The people who create these ratings labels obviously don’t live in the real world.

what brought this to my attention was a customer today asking me if their new E grade bulbs were efficient or could be improved on?

they we’re 4.6 watt led, anything less would be too dim

 

[Sidewinder]

The rating probably has something to do with lumens per circuit watt.
The more lumens per watt the higher the rating?

 

[Geoff1946]

What did strike me from that article is the change over time of the meanings of each rating. That is as more appliances qualify for A rating the standard is changed to call them B or C and so require further improvement. Literally moving goals.

 

[Murdoch]

What did strike me from that article is the change over time of the meanings of each rating. That is as more appliances qualify for A rating the standard is changed to call them B or C and so require further improvement. Literally moving goals.

i simply don’t understand how a LED light can be an F

it doesn’t make any sense and my customer thought they had to go out and buy more LEDs

 

[druid77]

Some sort of an explanation here
https://www.sparksdirect.co.uk/blog/new-energy-label-led-lamps-you-need-to-know

 

[Murdoch]

Some sort of an explanation here
https://www.sparksdirect.co.uk/blog/new-energy-label-led-lamps-you-need-to-know

Thanks for that.

It doesn't really affect the point which is that its really tricky to move from an E or F to an A or B and more importantly any energy saving at this level is to be quite frank pointless as its going to be so small.

 

[jc_150]

Hi All
Found this online which is a good explanation of how the new energy efficiency figures work an the changes made by the rule makers. It is an easy read.
https://www.sparksdirect.co.uk/blog/new-energy-label-led-lamps-you-need-to-knowHope it helps, it certainly helped me as I was not aware of the changes.
Regards
JohnC

 

[Sidewinder]

Interesting stuff
I normally stay clear of the energy efficiency stuff and the Ecodesign directive, apart from when dealing with a colleague in the USA.
His customers are always looking for ways to justify equipment as compliant, when it isn't.
Since being in a wheelchair, I go shopping even less than I used to. But I recall relatively recently going around a supermarket and being stopped at their selection of LED lamps.
The first thing I looked at, unable to pick any up was the shelf edge information.
Instead of £/kg or the like for food, it actually showed lm/W.
I found that intriguing. The spread was amazing.
Worth a quick look if you are there.
It might give you an idea of what is in consumer the market for the customer.