Extra Safety Measure

[OnOff]

Don't have the full story I'll admit but just speaking to my brother who is having some decorating done. New ceilings inc new downlighters in the lounge etc. Full length built in wall units, new stairs etc. TBH I try not to get involved as we have "differing" ideas on how to do things.

Out of the blue he mentions he's having a new CU fitted and do I want the old one. I ask why....................

From memory it's a 16th edition board. The electrician has said something on the lines of "It's an extra safety measure because the old cu has a plastic case and the armoured to the shed has nowhere to connect to................".

I said the bloke sounds like a four lettered word beginning with C if that's his only reason and that was the end of that conversation.

Nice work if you can get it I suppose.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Sounds like what I tell my customers...

can't have any of these poxy plastic switches and sockets either..

Must have metal-clad & 4" trunking around the lounge wall and new kitchen extension..

FARRRRR safer IMHO!!

:innocent

 

[Blue Duck]

New cu or this? 

hmmm

 

[Andy™]

New cu or this? 

hmmm

or a 20m galv thru box. SWA in 1 end, T&E in the other end

or take the cable straight thru in CU if its close enough

 

[Badger]

well excuse me here but the armoured that supplies the pond at our home, goees to the plastic consumer unit via an rcbo 16 amp mcb 61009 unit, it glands via the plastic case on the c/unit but the earthing nuts (pyrana nut) earths tha armour of the armoured cable, and the armoured is cleated along the wall then into ceiling. does this install make it wrong aswell.

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[Barx]

Unlucky badge, your now illegal and need a danger notice until you have your cu changed.

 

[Badger]

why is it illegal!

 

[m4tty]

Think he was joking badge mate lol

 

[a3]

Looks well dodgy to me, I have PM'd steps to let me know his thoughts  :innocent

 

[OnOff]

Only thing I can think of with my brothers is if the electrician has "sold" him a new cu on the grounds of the lighting circuit being modified being on the non RCD side of the original cu? I can just hear the "It'll be safer!" spiel. 

 Avoid working for friends and family if I can tbh especially the ones who "do a bit" themselves. It's always:

"How deep should this cable go underground then?"..............this generally comes after the "Can I run it along the bottom of the fence?" question. Of course it usually starts with a phone call "I got some of that BLACK shed cable from the boot fair will it be alright?". (Size not important, EVER. It's black and looks the part and it's got "metal" round it). 

So after you tell them how deep, explain why, the benefit of running it in a duct even if it is armoured, cable tape etc and scanned and emailed the picture from from the book they tell you, all proudly that they've "run it alongside the path..........which is concrete". Or that it's "under the block paving" which is 2" thick.

Even better are the "I've done such and such" calls. Followed by "It'll be alright won't it?". Last one was my best mate who rang to say he'd fitted a 45A cooker switch for isolating his boiler!!!

headbang

 

[Barx]

why is it illegal!

Dude, i was joking, not need to shut down and power off!

 

[batty]

Who de-scoobed  Barx I scoobed him to put it right. No need to  de-scoob for a joke.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Only thing I can think of with my brothers is if the electrician has "sold" him a new cu on the grounds of the lighting circuit being modified being on the non RCD side of the original cu? I can just hear the "It'll be safer!" spiel. 

 Avoid working for friends and family if I can tbh especially the ones who "do a bit" themselves. It's always:

"How deep should this cable go underground then?"..............this generally comes after the "Can I run it along the bottom of the fence?" question. Of course it usually starts with a phone call "I got some of that BLACK shed cable from the boot fair will it be alright?". (Size not important, EVER. It's black and looks the part and it's got "metal" round it). 

So after you tell them how deep, explain why, the benefit of running it in a duct even if it is armoured, cable tape etc and scanned and emailed the picture from from the book they tell you, all proudly that they've "run it alongside the path..........which is concrete". Or that it's "under the block paving" which is 2" thick.

Even better are the "I've done such and such" calls. Followed by "It'll be alright won't it?". Last one was my best mate who rang to say he'd fitted a 45A cooker switch for isolating his boiler!!!

headbang

Didn't he also mention the need for surge protection on ALL new work as well......?

thats REALLY safe!!!!

give me this sparks mobile number and I will text him and tell him to read 443.2..

I'm sure he can squeeze more out of the job

:innocent

:slap

:coat

 

[kerching]

Well, on the subject of 'black cable'.....i store some stuff in my mates barn. He was concreting the floor and wanted to put some cable in for a 3 phase bench saw. So he rooted through my stuff and helped me by putting in some 50mm tri rated single core AND a 20 pair BT cable, so thats ok then!