IR test on florry without disconnection

[norv]

Just a quickie, Can you do an insulation test on a fluorescent light at 250V without disconnecting it with P+N joined together. Can you do it at 500V aswell without disconnection ?

Guiness Drink

 

[a1]

Funnily enough - That is the very question I asked my Lecturer on Monday last. And his reply was No, you just disconnect the Phase.

Do you guys agree with that?

 

[norv]

Cheers for that Admin. The problem with the florrys that are fitted already, they are pre-wired with wires that push in between 2 pins, that sort of cut the insulation & make the connection (if you know what I mean) & then you just wire the t&e into the term block.

I dont fancy having to go round & disconnect each one, there are quite a few & some of them are quite high up.

 

[batty]

Norv

In an ideal world you would do as colllege lecturer says but if they are high up I would test p/n to earth on insulation resistance although if you are doing a pir you are going to have to get up to them to do a continuity test anyway but if possible you may be able to do it on a wander lead and only test loop at furthest fitting.

batty

 

[The Godfather]

Funnily enough - That is the very question I asked my Lecturer on Monday last. And his reply was No, you just disconnect the Phase.Do you guys agree with that?

Checking a circuit diagram of a flossy, the Boys agrees.

The Boys

(Don's out for the evening)

 

[kme]

I`ve never seen a "circuit diagram" for a "flossie"??????

Could you post it, please boyos?

 

[seajayess]

As batty said you can do the test between L/CPC and N/CPC but if you are doing a PIR you are going to have to take them apart to do an R1/R2 test plus Zs and hope who ever installed them did it correctly if they are high up, can be a right pain CJS

 

[The Godfather]

I`ve never seen a "circuit diagram" for a "flossie"??????Could you post it, please boyos?

Here you are KME.

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=Flourescant+circuit+diagram%3F&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title

The Boys

(Don's out for the evening)

The Boys

 

[kme]

No boyos, thats a "flourescant"; whatever one of them is..............

KME is not happy.

I wanted a flossie diagram

 

[Mr Sworld]

Just a quickie, Can you do an insulation test on a fluorescent light at 250V without disconnecting it with P+N joined together. Can you do it at 500V aswell without disconnection ?

Can I ask why you need to test that far? I would test up to the switch and note on the test certificate that the florries were untested.

I am assuming this is a periodic.....

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Can I ask why you need to test that far? I would test up to the switch and note on the test certificate that the florries were untested.I am assuming this is a periodic.....

as in note "Equipment vulnerable to testing" me thinks!

 

[steptoe]

NO, you need to join LINE & NEUTRAL together in a block connector(or such like) and test between this and EARTH.

or has been said, put a limitation in the box., thats why its there.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I`ve never seen a "circuit diagram" for a "flossie"??????Could you post it, please boyos?

Here you go ?:| ; \

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I have to admit Steptoe is correct and your lecturer is wrong ( their only human ( well some of them ))

I advise you read Guidance note 3 which tells you to join L & N and to test between these and E at 500V. No damage will be done and this test should be noted on the paperwork.

 

[kme]

Nice one Slipslap - like the sig, too