Landing Light

[Sharpend]

Im sure not always me, there are other sparks around that do 3 ph

Well that's got to be the most PC thing you've ever stated!!!!!

 

[batty]

I do have a few customers with three phase mainly commercial you also get two phase when houses were electrically heated. 

 

[steptoe]

Im sure not always me, there are other sparks around that do 3 ph

Well that's got to be the most PC thing you've ever stated!!!!!

Ive also said windoze is ****....!

doesnt that count?

thats about PCs  :C

:slap

 

[BES]

Steptoe

I started this thread to.just ask how others did a certain job. I have no doubt about the way I complete this type of install. You implied that a judge would find it wasn't done correctly and I would be at fault by the statement you made without explaining the reasons why

 

[steptoe]

i didnt imply anything,

you stated that if you complied with BS7671 then you had done it correctly,

I simply stated 7671 wasnt the law and if you relied on that as a total defence then your adherehence to EAWR may come into question,

that is all.

 

[BES]

I wasn't concerned if the way I install a lighting point on a landing and its 2w switching was correct or not as I've done it both ways but usually take feed from downstairs as this was the way I was taught . All I asked was which way others do it as mate who does mainly new builds which I don't said spec called for it. As for the smokes I'll carry on doing it as I have been as it complies and don't see any problem with it .

Not a bs7671 in sight mate and can't see a statatury reg I'm not adering to.

 

[Blue Duck]

"Wades in at the last minute with a silly suggestion"

ut the landing light on its own cct and attach the smokes to that cct

 

[Doc Hudson]

Hello

Quick question when doing a new build or rewire which lighting circuit do you usually feed landing light from up or down . I've always done it from downstairs so if upstairs lighting trips you have light at top of stairs and clearly stated this at consumer unit but mate of mine says other way round so mister diy doesn't come along and turn off upstairs circuit thinking because fitting is upstairs must be on upstairs circuit. Though my way was the norm . Just wondered what others do.

I wasn't concerned if the way I install a lighting point on a landing and its 2w switching was correct or not as I've done it both ways but usually take feed from downstairs as this was the way I was taught . All I asked was which way others do it as mate who does mainly new builds which I don't said spec called for it. As for the smokes I'll carry on doing it as I have been as it complies and don't see any problem with it .

I think you have answered your own question in post#49. That is, your mates job spec requested the lighting to be wired in a certain way. Where there is no spec you can do it however you like providing it is electrically safe and suitably documented and labeled. Where there is a spec you aim to meet that spec with good workmanship correct materials correct testing etc, to also leave an electrically safe and documented installation. On another thread recently, about compact RCBO's, a comment was made that in an ideal world every room would have its own circuit and RCBO. But it is always down to what is economically feasible. Material costs, labour costs and the customers budget normally have the final say on how you choose to design your circuits.

Doc H.

 

[BES]

Thanks Doc :Applaud

I only asked how others did this out of curiosity after mate mentioned the job he was on not HOW to do it then next thing I know Steptoe has me in front of the judge for being incompetent. :C

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I have rewired 4 , 3 phase single dwelling houses this year so its fairly common for me.

 

[batty]

So would you try to avoid having 415 volts in a single switch?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

So would you try to avoid having 415 volts in a single switch?

Yes. Managed it in all but one switch as the main chandelier in the hall had an electric winch (for maintenance)  and i had to concoct a relay interface as the motor needed a 20A C type breaker, this and some intermediates meant 2 phase were unavoidable. As we were using a flat plate grid system of switches i fixed labels under the face plate & inside the box. I think that is not necessary for the 17th but i still did it anyhow .

I still avoid 13A sockets on different phase in the same room also, old habits.

 

[steptoe]

funnily enough, done a school job a while back that spec'd the lights in each room were on 2 different phases as a minimum,

all switches labelled inside and out accordingly though,

I know not domestic, but not the way I'd normally try and do light switches in any environment.