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Hi all,

Right pissed off...

I got a yamaha XT600 i have been putting back together. I wanted to do things properly, so i bought a couple of expensive torque wrenches. Trouble is, the torque settings given by the maker are simply a load of rubbish...

Take the M6 exhaust stud bolts into the head, Yamahe seem to think you should do them up to 8Ft/lbs Absolutely no chance, they would just snap off.

It seems to me that they have just reproduced a table of standards tightening torques for HT bolts in the various bolt sizes and think that is ok... Take the exhaust clamp halfway along the exhaust, you know, a bit of a pressed steel thing. Yamaha seem to think you should do this up to 18 ft/lbs !!!!! this would just demolish the clamp..

This afternoon i was fitting a new rear sprocket [10 x 1.25mm nuts] According to yamaha, you need to do these to 43 ft/lbs. Well, there I was doing this. It seemed madness to me, but i thought, "well, that is what the makers say" when i was doing it i thought, "never in this world" but i perservered and what happens?? Strips the thread.... Not happy..

What you all think??

I think forget the torque wrench and just use some judgement.

Tell you one thing though, NEVER buy a yamaha... Mistakes in their parts books with drawing with glaring errors showing items in the wrong place, part numbers transposed, cannot even write their parts books properly.

john..

 
Mmmmmm

Difficult one this,

tbh, we used to do heads to 14lbs, and it's nothing, I could do them up single hand on a T bar.

18doesnt seem enough to strip anything, have you unwound your wrench first I assume, not trying to teach you to suck eggs, but 18 is nothing really.

BTW, yamaha are the gods of strokers, :)

 
If I do anything on the car I only worry about torque settings on anything critical. I have 2 torque wrenches from Halfords and I'm impressed with them. Local garage doesn't torque anything. I don't take much there.........

 
Don't talk to me about torque wrenches, had four new tyres recently, three month ago, the garage must have failed to torque the wheel nuts to one wheel, came close to losing the wheel the other day, nuts had worked loose on this wheel and were barely holding by time is got back to the garage!! Then and steps will remember! I tightened my oil drain nut to the torque setting as recommended................... Stripped the ruddy threads!!! So torque stays in garage unless needed for wheels or head. The rest is tight, or grunt tight. :)

 
Don't talk to me about torque wrenches, had four new tyres recently, three month ago, the garage must have failed to torque the wheel nuts to one wheel, came close to losing the wheel the other day, nuts had worked loose on this wheel and were barely holding by time is got back to the garage!! Then and steps will remember! I tightened my oil drain nut to the torque setting as recommended................... Stripped the ruddy threads!!! So torque stays in garage unless needed for wheels or head. The rest is tight, or grunt tight. :)
I do remember,

have no recollection of what happened next though.  :C   :slap

wheels, grunt tight, then a bit with a bar,,,,,,,,,,,

torque wrenches have their place, but just not everywhere,

speaking from experience, and Ive put together a fair few engines to [probably] a lot closer tolerances than a lot of you guys work to,

its hard to beat how the feel of the bolt/nut is rather than simply dial in a number and whack it up.

 
Don't talk to me about torque wrenches, had four new tyres recently, three month ago, the garage must have failed to torque the wheel nuts to one wheel, came close to losing the wheel the other day, nuts had worked loose on this wheel and were barely holding by time is got back to the garage!! Then and steps will remember! I tightened my oil drain nut to the torque setting as recommended................... Stripped the ruddy threads!!! So torque stays in garage unless needed for wheels or head. The rest is tight, or grunt tight. :)
Another reason to DIY...

 
Hi All,

I would agree....

Like i said, i did a nut to the correct torque and it stripped..... Still sorting it now..

Last bike i had [apart from the two i got now] was a brand new yamaha YBR125 The makers gave a torque setting for the sump nut on that. You would have had to be an absolute loony to have done it this tight, would definitely have stripped.

Steps is right... I know a fellow that REALLY knows about bikes. He is nearly 70 and has had them all his life, a large portion of which was spent in a bike shop [working as a mechanic] Anyway, he says he has never used a torque wrench, always done it all by feel, and he has never had any problems....

john...

 
I have a BIG torque wrench.

Of course I have a set of Scam approved required toolage torque screwdrivers. I just don't seem to remember where they are at the moment :whistle

 
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