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Don't really understand why you can't wait? and why you did not think of any problems arising during file transfer. Proper planning n all that.

Had my share of belt's but wouldn't like one from a 32a ring with no RCD.

 
All I can add, is if you do go ahead, video yourself doing it.

Then the coroner will have some evidence for the inquest.  Or if by some miracle you survive, it will get plenty of hits on you tube.

 
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i would say go ahead and do it, but then some other idiot like yourself will try and make it a law that plugs cant be designed that way any more incase some other idiot tries the same thing

 
Finally some help - thanks you.

to everyone else.....don't be drama queens! Who's gonna get murdered? - I said I'd dismantle the cable once I'd finished. I've probably had more belts than you've had hot dinners in the past anyway! I can tell you guys don't work on KV rigs! Caravan electricians maybe.  If it's done carefully it's not going to kill anyone.  You are all mollycuddled nowadays. Don't you guys remember those flip-top wire connectors where you just stripped the cable and pushed them in before closing the lid?  God your such girls!

but steptoe yes thankyou for the only worthwhile comment on my question.

btw I think I still have a few of those flip-top connectors so actually it will be safer to use those...I'd forgotten about them!
I took your advice steptoe and it was wrong. It blew the fuse but not before taking out one of the PCs!!!!!! So you either deliberately misled me or you don't know your stuff. 

 
Well, my advice was very clear in posts #6 and #10 ,

Just proves the point that you weren't competent or intelligent enough to realise what you proposed to do could kill someone,

there is a very good reason those type of leads are called widow makers 

 
I took your advice steptoe and it was wrong. It blew the fuse but not before taking out one of the PCs!!!!!! So you either deliberately misled me or you don't know your stuff. 
well that was bit of a letdown. didnt even notice this 'cannot be switched off or doomsday will happen' had been switched off

 
LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  with the exception of 1 or 2...... you guys top the scales of nastiness!
 
It just shows that you had no intention of being helpful from the start. Especially you steptoe - if anyone was going to be a murderer it appears it was going to be you with your intentionally misleading and dangerous instruction in your post.  Which of course I saw straight through lol!
 
The job took 20 mins max. Most of it finding the bits n pieces. - and definitely less time than to write this!  Very simple, very safe and very successful!
 
What drama queens you are!!
 
1. make a ring out of the trailing socket by using a spring loaded connector block with one end in an adjacent wall socket and the other end in one of the trailing sockets. close the cover to make the circuit. Simple and safe and been used like this for years before Europe made big girls blouses out you all!
2. unplug existing wall socket . Immediately plug into single socket with backbox to insulate.
3. Move insulated 3 pin plug and socket to new location and immediately disconnect the single socket and back box and insert into the new wall socket.
4. lift the isolation cover on the spring loaded connection block, unplug the 3pin plug from the training socket, unplug from the old wall socket. A two-pole switch could have been used as well if the flip top wasn't available. Again total safe and isolated from shocks.
 
Job done!   Easy, safe, quick, no drama!
 
You guys are just too much lol!  No widow maker cables here! 
 
I suppose some thanks are in order to you all really because without your "OMG he's bringing the end of the world" - "you're doing somethig sooo outrageous mr beany" comments I would probably not have isolated the plug when I moved it over and that was a sensible thing to do on my part.
 
If you guys hadn't been so up ur own a*ses then maybe you could have pointed me in that safe direction instead of taking the p*ss out of a legitimate question and requirement. btw the legitimacy is for me to decide not you. Why I wanted to do it should have been no concern to you. What I wanted to do was not rocket science, not illegal and not unsafe if done properly as i did in the end.
 
Granted my initial plan was more dangerous than it needed to be and someone helpful with a modicum of knowledge about the subject  could have suggested something similar to what I did. That would have helped me. That's why I asked the question. Not to be told I'm an idiot, laughed at and abused. But for someone to come up with a safer solution to a challenge I was facing.
 
Like I said, in a round about way you led me to a different implementation which was much safer and effective but sadly that was not because you guys are "salt of the earth" and helpful. More that I laughed so much at your narrow-minded "this isn't in my training manual" jobsworth attitude that a more creative solution just jumped out at me.
 
I'm sure I'll use you monkies again sometime when I fancy a kick in the head for no apparent reason.
 
Thank you sirs!
 
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MY above comments do not apply to Blue Duck and slipshod & slapdash who's comments were not abusive and although not strictly speaking greatly helpful were I believe made with good intent.   
 
No so with the rest of you!
 
 
It just shows that you had no intention of being helpful from the start. Especially you steptoe - if anyone was going to be a murderer it appears it was going to be you with your intentionally misleading and dangerous instruction in your post.  Which of course I saw straight through lol!
we were helpful. you were told to turn the power off.

but since your clearly above us, why did you ask in the first place. troll.

and whats your plan during a power failure? cant be that big of a problem to switch it off then can it

 
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1. make a ring out of the trailing socket by using a spring loaded connector block with one end in an adjacent wall socket and the other end in one of the trailing sockets. close the cover to make the circuit. Simple and safe and been used like this for years before Europe made big girls blouses out you all!
If that's what I think it is, they were sold years ago under the trade name "safeblok"

We just knew them as a "suicide block"

Since you were making a "ring" by connecting two different final circuits together, I think there's little point telling you just how dangerous that was.  you GOT AWAY WITH IT this time. you were lucky.

I hope nobody reading this thread follows your advice.

 
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we were helpful. you were told to turn the power off.

but since your clearly above us, why did you ask in the first place. troll.

and whats your plan during a power failure? cant be that big of a problem to switch it off then can it
again the why is no concern of yours. You don't know enough about my issue to make that judgement.  FWIW the problem arose yesterday morning. It wasn't a massive deal to power down just a headache I didn't want when I thought there may have been an easy solution. You guys just told me to turn the stuff off but that wasn't your call. I just asked if it would work. It did! there was a better way than I initially described. You guys could have guided me there instead of second-guessing my requirement. 

 
If that's what I think it is, they were sold years ago under the trade name "safeblok"

We just knew them as a "suicide block"

Since you were making a "ring" by connecting two different final circuits together, I think there's little point telling you just how dangerous that was.  you GOT AWAY WITH IT this time. you were lucky.

I hope nobody reading this thread follows your advice.
another erroneous assumption. The socket was just at the other side of a cupboard the very next in the ring maybe 2mtrs T&E max and no PD between the two.  you are all reading stuff into this that doesnt exist. By all means ask questions to find out more just dont invent stuff that isn't here.

Listen at the end of the day it's your forum and you can treat guest as you like. I think I've been treated badly but I'm not going to cry about it. Like I said I modified my approach because of all your comments so all is good for me. It would just have been nice to think you were trying to help and not instantly deride my attempts to some my problem which was REAL to me!

Thanks and let's end it there shall we?

not sure how to edit on here .

2nd last line above should have read

attempts to SOLVE my problem which was REAL to me

 
another erroneous assumption. The socket was just at the other side of a cupboard the very next in the ring maybe 2mtrs T&E max and no PD between the two.  you are all reading stuff into this that doesnt exist. By all means ask questions to find out more just dont invent stuff that isn't here.
Okay, so not only did you do stupid things with a widow maker lead, you also moved the socket STILL LIVE.

It must have been. because after your dicing with death episode, you have moved the power source to another socket on the same ring.  So in order not to power down the computers, you must have left that ring energised, which means moving the other socket while it was STILL LIVE.

Your wish to be a contender for the Darwin awards astounds me.

This is a very friendly forum. If you don't believe that go and try a few others. But no professional electrician is going to advise you on how to do blatantly stupid things like you were asking.  If you still want to go ahead having been advised not to, then that is your business, but please don't call us unfriendly for advising you of the safe way to do things.

 
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So you are suggesting that as professionals with a responsiblity, also holding the greater knowledge, we should advise people who we have no idea as to there ability, never mind who else may view and try said suggestion.

Now that would be responsible would it? Just because you wish to put yourself in danger doesn't mean we should advise you how to do it.

So even though we didn't tell you how to do it, the advise that you were given made you rethink you plan, well in my mind that speaks volumes of the advice you were given.

Unfortunately we can not legislate for those who wish to put themselves at risk. But we certainly will not encourage you.

 
Pro Dave  ur trippin' m8!!! NO widow maker cable, NO  moved sockets just an isolated 13A plug was moved from one wall socket to another. nothing live and open to touch except for the plug at the point of plugging in. simples!  

 
Pro Dave  ur trippin' m8!!! NO widow maker cable, NO  moved sockets just an isolated 13A plug was moved from one wall socket to another. nothing live and open to touch except for the plug at the point of plugging in. simples!  
The purpose of the exercise was to unplug the cable so you could move the socket it was plugged into.

So if you haven't moved the socket, what was the point of dicing with death.  you are making even less sense than you did to start with.

 
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This topic is now closed. The thread will remain as a reminder of the stupidity some people possess.

Working live is in the regulations, and the ways of doing it are far above the remit of this thread. All and any computer can be turned off, it is still unclear if UPS has been installed to cover DNO disconnections.

 
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