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[revjames]

cant believe a decent quality job can be done rewiring an occupied house in a day with 4 people. corners are being cut. No testing til the next day so untested potentially dangerous circuits energised straight away? Not to mention the devaluation of the trade with this sort of mass production. Not impressed.

 

[gavindrummond]

Yes 2 ways are being installed as well it's just another cable. I will take some pics for you guys to see if you want.

 

[Andy™]

The entire house. I know it's not good not testing before energising but I'm in no position to say. Even when I worked for the local authority they didn't test before energising.

in other words, you are leaving the property with the wiring in a potentially dangerous condition, but it'll be OK until tomorrow because it passed the breaker test

 

[sb_89]

4 circuits though ? I dont think I've ever wired a house with just 4 circuits, I'm not having a go now, I know you have to do it regardless, because you need the experience, I'm just curious what a one day rewire gets me for my money, how much do they charge ? If you know ? I don't do much domestic work because its such hard graft for little reward !

I don't think it's Gavin who's leaving it in a dangerous state, he's under instruction, it's the morons he works for.

 

[gavindrummond]

I think basic testing is carried out before energising but it's the day after tigers tested and signed off. I think the going rate is

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Anyone can do a rewire in stoopid timescales when they are ignoring good practice and guidance of BS7671....

I know you are just a laborer for this bunch of cowboys Gav..

But whatever happens Do NOT be miss-led into thinking they are teaching you or helping you to learn any good practices as adopted by a competent electrician...

Consider the guidance for the minimum number of socket outlets per room..

553.1.7 pg 174..

&

Table H7 on site guide 178..

Sounds like they are cutting corners to the bare minimum? :|

Occupied property been left with power on I presume for the occupants to use ..

but not tested till the following day??

How does this follow..

134.2.1 pg 22

and the whole of chapter 61 starting on page 189??

Who does the documentation? e.g. last paragraph of 514.9.1

provide a durable copy of the schedule adjacent to the consumer unit..

Or are yours just the sticker saying.. sockets / lights / cooker / shower etc.. by the MCB's?

Does that meet 132.13 pg 20 and/or 514.9.1 pg 117 ?

Sounds like your blokes are following different wiring regs to the rest of us!?

But there again a surface trunking job is not a rewire in my book.. :shakehead

its a DIY bodgit & scarper..

as for

 

[ProDave]

Personally I would not get out of bed for

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

I think basic testing is carried out before energising .

Which part of the regs refers to only doing "basic" testing before energising??

and

what is Basic testing anyway?? headbang

don't think I've seen that bit in my book? :C

 

[ProDave]

what is Basic testing anyway?? headbang don't think I've seen that bit in my book? :C

Energise circuits. If it doesn't go bang, the lights turn on, and power comes out of the sockets, then it's "tested" Like in them good old days, abut 12th eddition.

 

[Sharpend]

The problem is that in this sort of line of work the price is usually given by the client. I have experienced this in the new build work. The large nationwide builder will give you a guide price that he expects to pay for the house you are then expected to price according to the guide price with a little less off for favourable price strategy. So I'd expect this is very similar. As for the

 

[Jono Pashley]

It is the labour only price down Swansea way they were offering 400 quid for a 3 man team to do them, laughed as i left their office...

 

[gavindrummond]

Yes

 

[Manator]

Unfortunately nothing is the same any more, I left school in the mid 70's and everyone got what they wanted. These days? Well its more like every man for himself.

 

[Barx]

Gavin I know exactly how you feel. 6 years in and I'm still in the same situation. And not fully qualified either as boss made it so I couldn't attend night college. 8 - 9pm finishes etc. It's is very annoying......

....But it's the sh!t world we live in today. God help our young.

 

[steptoe]

I do social rewires @ 650 3bed, labour only,

the only reason I do them is continuity of work, the firm also gives me a bit of other better paying work and they like the same person to do the re-wires too,

its maybe only one every 4-6weeks or so, so I just try and carry the loss, but, I usually have a couple of weeks or so so can fit them in on slack days.

 

[Barx]

We are currently doing them. 3 men 2 days, but there is alot goes in them. Standard stuff plus outside lights front and back, TV points in every bedroom, living room and dining room. All coaxes run to loft space. Most have separate downstairs loo that has a new extract fan to core and fit. Out building with 1 x dsso and a bulkhead fitting switched from hallway. All chopped in, no trunking except for drop to CU and risers (mains and tv) to loft. doing 2 a week then boss has us catching up on a few private bits on the 5th day. he is pushing them for 2.5 a week but the contractors don't want properties half done left over weekend.

 

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[betty swollocks]

I do the same as prodave

Wire loft first thing in the summer

Send young boy up in the winter brrrr

When I started me n my mate got a lot of social housing rewires but even then it was poorly paid but it got us up and running in business

Lived in, Two men two days full job and tested & cert

 

[gavindrummond]

We're not finishing till 8pm most days. You got 1 person wiring which in my opinion is wrong there should be 2 people doing it. Taking existing sockets and lighting points off is easy and quick to do. I normally take of exhausting lighting and run trunking lid straight up ready. Then switches, then sockets. A lot of the time were waiting on the pack to be delivered. It's clearly not working at the moment.

 

[Sharpend]

At those hours Gav you'd earn more delivering newspapers per hour!