New lighting electric installation question

[Mickey Goldmill]

Hi all.

I have a few questions that I am wondering if someone can answer or help me understand. I have recently had my big garage converted into an extension on the back of my house and the electricians are currently doing there stuff.

However, i went in today after they left and have noticed a few things and am just wondering if they are right, as I have never noticed it before and my friend said that what they have done is against regulations in the uk, etc regarding the lighting.

I have taken pictures and will provide the links so you can see the lighting system. I am just wondering what the hell the yellow things are for on the wires and why they have been used. And also, are they safe. In fact, does it look safe to anyone with any knowledge on here.

I would ask the electricians, but I didn't want to come across wrong first. Just wondering if people can help me.

Many thanks and here are the pictures. Please can someone tell me what the yellow things are/called/do?

Here are the pics.

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[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Looks ok to me as the job is not finished. Those connectors are acceptable if enclosed in a box.

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Here is a link to a similar connector 10 X 3 POLE PUSH IN WIRE CABLE CONNECTORS BY WAGO on eBay!. I try to wire new jobs with no hidden connections, but if tidied up a bit before finishing that will be acceptable

 

[Andy™]

they are push fit connectors. not acceptable like that outside an enclosure. they may not have had an enclosure to fit around it at the time

or it could be a temporary connection until other works are done

 

[ProDave]

As others say, okay IF fitted in an enclosure.

BUT on a new installation (which is really what this is) there is really no excuse for joining cables like that. If it's been planned properly, all junctions will either be at the light fittings or the light switches.

 

[Mickey Goldmill]

Thanks for putting my mind at rest....kinda.

ProDave, will this be safe? as like you said, light fittings i have seen have all the wires going into the light fixture thing. This is the first time I have seen this. Should I ask them to do it into the light fitting instead?

Also, while I am here, I want to see what you think of the meter box they have fitted last week and haven't touched since, because they have to ammend something to it apparently for the underfloor heating. Just wondering if this looks ok to you guys. Sorry I only took 1 picture

Thanks for all your help again!

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[ProDave]

Attachment doesn't work in the last post. Try again.

It's unfinished work. Do the junctions coincide with where a light fitting is going to go? if so it may be temporary. Particularly if he's just extending the existing lighting circuit, and needs a connection to keep the lights on in the rest of the house.

If the junctions are obviously nowhere near where the new light fittings are going, then raise the question what are they for and are they going to remain like that.

 

[NozSpark]

They maybe putting those connections into a dryline box which will sit behind your light fitting,, most close fitting lights don't have enough room for all the cables

 

[Mickey Goldmill]

AH, ok. I see. And yes, the connector things are where the new light will be. they have also put them connectors on the wires where the plug sockets are going to be, connecting the 2 cables together if that helps?

And here is that pic again, if it will work.

Sorry about all these questions.. I just wanted to be sure of what they are doing is right, and not a bodge job!

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[Andy™]

by the sounds of it, asking them to 'remove' the connectors will probably end up with you having no power until the job is completed

 

[ProDave]

Yes, it now sounds like he is just extending the existing circuits and these connections are temporary. They will become permanent connections behind the sockets or lights when it's finished. So no need to worry.

 

[samson337]

They might be there for the testing side of it, or they will put them in wago boxes before finishing. Nothing wrong, could be a bit neater, but that's just me.

 

[ProDave]

What's your concern with the "meter box"? (it's not a meter box, it's a consumer unit, or CU for short)

It's a modern split load dual RCD CU so looks okay.

I'm not convinced the lid is on properly, the MCB's seem recessed a bit too far. And it looks a bit grubby for being new.n What are your concerns?

 

[betty swollocks]

Could it be because they have tried to continue the lighting circuit to other parts of the installation and keep it working until such a time as the new ceiling is installed?

I've done something similar in the past usually as a temperature measure

Heres a thought though why not ASK the electrician actually doing the job?

 

[Mickey Goldmill]

Many thanks for all your answers, i greatly appreciate it. Feel a bit better now. Does that fuse box thing look ok to you guys? i posted the link to the pic in the last post.

Thanks again.

 

[NozSpark]

I don't know if it's just me or not, but it looks like the front cover isn't fitted correctly

 

[Mickey Goldmill]

no its a new installation and new fuse box/big fuse holder thing for the whole extension. apprently its independant installation or something like that. so its not being extended.

 

[ProDave]

no its a new installation and new fuse box/big fuse holder thing for the whole extension. apprently its independant installation or something like that. so its not being extended.

I'm only seeing ONE consumer unit with about 10 circuits. That sounds to me like it's for the whole house. You would not have 10 circuits in a garage conversion.

What IS striking me as odd, is I can see the supply head, I can see tails emerging from what looks like an isolator, but I CAN'T see your electricity meter.

Or is that just hiding under the flap?

 

[Mickey Goldmill]

Ok, thanks. I don't have any concerns as such, it's just that those yellow connectors concerned me and then a friend wound me up saying it's against laws and stuff. So just wanted to know if that board and the consumer unit thing looked ok to you guys too.

Anyways. I have piece of mind now, so thanks for all your help. It's greatly appreciated!

 

[ProDave]

The more I look at it, the more odd it looks. I can't see a neutral connection to the supply head. Is that really the DNO's supply head, or has your sparky installed that. Looks very odd to me. A better picture (with the flap up) might help.

 

[Mickey Goldmill]

The garage is 2 floors, so it's going to be sort of a little house. Shower, cooker etc. It's for my daughter to live in for the time being. Also, the one thing the electrician said is that I need to ring the electric board when they finish to get them to fit a meter for the garage. That's all I know.