New to CCTV

[squat]

Hi guys,

i am a Electrician and have been asked to install a number of CCTV systems in petrol stations 

I am new to this kind of work, l have done cable runs and have fitted cameras the only bit I would be worried about is setting up the DVR and putting it on the customer phone 

any advice

squat

 

[Lurch]

There's more to it than just screwing the cameras up and calling it a day. Would you fit a heating system because you have fitted some conduit before, practically the same thing right?

 

[Andy™]

are you qualified / insured to work on petrol stations?

do you know much about networking, IP address, port forwarding etc?

 

[squat]

are you qualified / insured to work on petrol stations?

do you know much about networking, IP address, port forwarding etc?

Hi Andy 

no im not qualified,I have insurance to work in petrol stations 

i know about networking not so hot on ip addresses or port forwarding.

Would you have any suggestions about training 

 

[squat]

Is there a qualification for CCTV

I have asked about and the general consensus is that it is not needed, go ahead, work away.

I have done a few of these petrol station installs already and have got a guy I know, in to do the setting up of the system ,this is what got me thinking as I do all the work and this guy comes in and gets pretty well dam paid for a day or so work.

this guy has been doing this for years he has no qualifications but he is a wiz at his work.

 

[Lurch]

Why don't you ask him to teach you? There's a reason he is getting paid, because he can do the things that he gets paid for. It is unlikely that he does nothing.

I don't understand the mentality of this at all. Fair enough learn the thing and then do it but you seem to be inferring that you can just have aquick look on the internet then sack this bloke off and charge extra money for commissioning the system. Surely if you have him working for you you must have some idea what is going on?

 

[steptoe]

I just love the fact you are working in hazardous areas without being qualified to do so , so I'd guess that kinda makes your insurance invalid as well,,,, :C

 

[roys]

I'm with Steps on this one, I would have thought that anything electrical within the hazardous zones of a petrol station would have required a CompEx qualification.

This to me would be a primary consideration before I even thought about the finer details of CCTV.

 

[M107]

http://www.systemq.com/Product/LRN-

 

[Murdoch]

How many actually need connecting to a phone line? The ones I've installed need an Ethernet connection to a router...

 

[Lurch]

How many actually need connecting to a phone line? The ones I've installed need an Ethernet connection to a router...

I think you have misunderstood, they meant setting up remote access on the customers smart phone.

 

[Murdoch]

I think you have misunderstood, they meant setting up remote access on the customers smart phone.

Probably.

I've installed Swann systems - 1 x scan of the QR code on an IOS device and its all sorted ... (model dependent)

 

[phil d]

Probably.

I've installed Swann systems - 1 x scan of the QR code on an IOS device and its all sorted ... (model dependent)

I use the system Q gear and it's brilliant, personally I wouldn't pee on the Swann stuff, it's garbage. Then again it all depends on your market, I only do high end stuff, commercial mainly, but for a quick throw it in job on a house then I suppose Swann is ok.

Incidentally with the System Q gear, they actually set up the remote viewing for you, just install the kit and ring them and they do it FOC, very helpful and their tech support is great too, unlike Videcon who are absolutely carp!

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I use the system Q gear and it's brilliant, personally I wouldn't pee on the Swann stuff, it's garbage. Then again it all depends on your market, I only do high end stuff, commercial mainly, but for a quick throw it in job on a house then I suppose Swann is ok.

Incidentally with the System Q gear, they actually set up the remote viewing for you, just install the kit and ring them and they do it FOC, very helpful and their tech support is great too

Same here.

I had a big smile on my face when i beat a Chubb quote (not difficult i suppose) to fit a 16 cam system with a 6TB hardrive. All the kit came from System Q . I find customers also find the operation of there stuff easy.

 

[UNG]

CCTV is going the same way as most industries and coming down to the lowest common plug and play denominator

The one stop single manufacturer / supplier system kit in a lot of cases will do the job without too much compromise and relieves the installer of the mixing, matching and optimising of kit that some of the really high end or specialist jobs demand

The System Q remote setup is a good idea for the less experienced but when it all goes tits up do they have 24/7 support, personally I like to know how my systems are set up so I can support them when my supplier has gone home and won't be back till Monday or worse still after the christmas shutdown.

Price will always be a big factor whichever supplier you choose, the problem these days is the customer always wants Hi Res CCTV without realising the size of hard disc needed to record it all, while motion detection recording only or low frame rate continuous with high frame motion recording can offer some reduction of recorded file sizes it does need more setting up, one of the biggest costs in a Hi Res CCTV system is the multi terabyte hard drives needed to record and store images for the 30 days most COP's require

 

[bradjackson]

Hi Squat,

Have you thought about using a p2p capable DVR so you can just scan the qr code on the customers phone to allow remote access via the app?