nic assesment

[green-hornet]

i have just added a new circuit, the date on the cu is about 10 years ago, so should it be pir now or pir 10 years for my circuit

thanks

The next date that YOU fill in is your own assesment of the installation and can not be over ridden by another engineer.

This is your own personal veiw and is limited to your own personal risk assesment of the continued use of the installation.

If you feel that under testing, you have reason to believe that the use or misuse of the installation would warrant another test in say 12 months, you are well within your rights to express this and write it on your certificate.

If when testing you find that all is well, and that the isnsulation is well above 200 then I would give it a further 10 years.

If I found a couple of circuits lower than 100 then I would give it 5 years, any lower and I may consider even lower checks.

Ps ignore the spelling its this poor light and me trying to type fast.

 

[tom1]

my spelling is crap at best

i see what u mean but not 100%

only put in one circuit, 299+ meger so its fine, the other circuits looks ok but not tested, so should i stick 10 years on the cert and on the cu.

does this also apply when u do minor work??

 

[batty]

my spelling is crap at besti see what u mean but not 100%

only put in one circuit, 299+ meger so its fine, the other circuits looks ok but not tested, so should i stick 10 years on the cert and on the cu.

does this also apply when u do minor work??

Deffinatly not if you have only tested one circuit you cannot say the others circuits will be ok for 10 years.

Batty

 

[tom1]

so on the cert when it ask for next inspection?

 

[green-hornet]

As batty says you can not verify all circuits not tested however you can veryfy your own circuit.

This is done by completing the EIC or minor works cert.

I will sometimes place a test lablel PIR label on the cu and write limitation or see notes.

This then advises any electrician who follows that the test and pir for a period of ten years only covers my part of the installation.

This can be acheived by filling out the EIC for circuits not tested as NOT TESTED.

In the comments on the exsisting installtion, you say circuits not tested, and if any limitations are imposed on you by the customer, then fill the EIC in accordigly.

This way you have filled in all the form without leaving any fellow electrician in any doubt as to what you have signed off as safe.

 

[tom1]

u see what got me was your tips for assesment post says people fail on missing pir lable.

the assesment is in my house and the cu pir lablel says last tested in 1987.

there is no date for the next inspection which is overdue.

not sure what to do about this.

the cert has a box,

next inspection, i recomend that this instilation is further inspected and tested after an interval of not more than. which i have put 10 years as i think it implys only to the work i have done?

 

[tom1]

wait a min,

comments on the existing instalation box

i could put it needs a pir for the rest of the instalation

 

[green-hornet]

wait a min, comments on the existing instalation box

i could put it needs a pir for the rest of the instalation

I would put it more simply as "not tested" or" requires inspecting" or "requires improvement".

My favorite is requires improvement, this implies that I have made a visual inspection and have found some faults that could not be verified at the time of visit.

A footnote is that when I do this I always explain to the client that this does not imply that the installation is unsafe, just that it has not been tested or verified for continued use.

 

[tom1]

thanks for all the help i passed the assesment today it was much like you said it would be thanks again

 

[a1]

Well done Tom. Excellent news Mate.

Have a Guinness

 

[tom1]

Guinnessthanks

 

[green-hornet]

Well done mate and good luck for the future.

GuinnessGuinnessGuinness

 

[batty]

Well done.

Applaud Smiley

 

[NozSpark]

Nice one,,

I bet it wasn't anywhere near as bad as you thought it would be!!

 

[tom1]

Nice one,,I bet it wasn't anywhere near as bad as you thought it would be!!

Yer it went quite well the guy was alright chated quite a bit

 

[Apache]

Congrats