Niceic Assessments -Office Asking For Extra Evidence After The Visit

[martinxxxxxx]

Hi ya alll

Hoping one of you experianced AC's out there can help me

Since my first assessment last week the NICEIC have written to ask me for evidence 

The evidence Required

-- Undertake appropriate remedial action for all non-compliance identified during previous assessment visits (what does this mean? this is my first AC one and I only joined as a DI last year and I don'trememberhaving any NC last year, before that I was Elecsa - sureley they arent wanting to to go back beore I joined them?)

-- Departures Identified are remedied.  - these were missing schedul lables and a not descriptive enough extents of installtion on a couple of sites

-- H&S policy and Risk Asssesment  are doucmented and maintained - I have downloaded and filled in the one on the NICEIC site will that be enough.  I dohave lotsof Risk assessments as my lad is doing his NVQ3 and we generate them for that.

Plus having a log for equipment accuracy and buying Inservice Inspection ed 4

My question is 

Is it normal for all this extra evidence to be asked for, because the AE only asked my for ONE major to be evidenced. Which I completed after his visit.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

These are things that the assessor noted was missing/wrong from your meeting & inspection. Obviously nothing serious to fail/remove you from the list.

GN4, calibration of your testers, H & S procedures and books,Liability insurance,  complaints log, BS7671 & OSG are all items listed as needed and have to be shown to the assessor.

The non compliance's are  missing 'chart' for a job you showed. The printed or written label stickers  on the C/U  are not good enough. I print out the results page and stick that up, or i sometimes use a A5 size sticker thats the same results page but you write it in.

You also are not giving a detailed enough description in the 'Details & extent of this certificate' . This is to cover your own back, ie extra socket is not good enough and should be 'Additional double socket in rear downstairs room under window, connected to existing wiring'.

 

[binky]

if you have failed to comply with something then, yes it is normal to ask for evidence to substantiate you have corrected your mistake. I suspect that they have only asked for one, becuase they want to see you do know how to 'do it right' and expect you to continue in that mould. They aren't so un-commercially aware as to ask you to go back and redo everything...

 

[Andy™]

your not being asked for 'evidence' as in extra jobs etc, your being asked for evidence that you have corrected what you didnt do properly in the job used for the assessment.

and you dont need an H&S policy if you employe less than 5 people, so might be a bit less work to do

 

[Evans Electric]

Sometimes After reading what hoops we have to jump through to apease this lot ,,,I just think ......I dunno....just  leave me alone to earn my living  ( And their living too of course) .

Andy , ELECSA have always insisted that I have a H&S policy , updated every year .  I don't have employees .

 

[Andy™]

my assessor has asked if i have a H&S policy, i just tell him no and thats the end of it...

 

[Blue Duck]

We have several all completely out of date. I'm the only Spark.

 

[Evans Electric]

my assessor has asked if i have a H&S policy, i just tell him no and thats the end of it...

Love it !! :Salute

 

[kerching]

I believe that the NIC require every company to have an H&S policy NO MATTER how many employees.

They have their own set of rules and dance to their own tune

 

[Blue Duck]

I believe that the NIC require every company to have an H&S policy NO MATTER how many employees.

They have their own set of rules and dance to their own tune

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ll3uipTO-4A?feature=oembed

 

[martinxxxxxx]

I spoke to the assessor and hopefully it is being sorted -watch this space

 

[martinxxxxxx]

All sorted phew

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Tell us more  ;

Did you rectify the points raised ?

 

[martinxxxxxx]

Tell us more  ;

Did you rectify the points raised ?

I did, but I did not need to more than anyone, somehow all of the point raised got interpreted as majors during the  magic pen download.

The evidence Required

1-- Undertake appropriate remedial action for all non-compliance identified during previous assessment visits (what does this mean? this is my first AC one and I only joined as a DI last year and I don'trememberhaving any NC last year, before that I was Elecsa - sureley they arent wanting to to go back beore I joined them?)

2-- Departures Identified are remedied.  - these were missing schedul lables and a not descriptive enough extents of installtion on a couple of sites

3-- H&S policy and Risk Asssesment  are doucmented and maintained - I have downloaded and filled in the one on the NICEIC site will that be enough.  I dohave lotsof Risk assessments as my lad is doing his NVQ3 and we generate them for that.

4 - Plus having a log for equipment accuracy and buying Inservice Inspection ed 4

1 I stated that all previous NC had been addressed to the satifaction of previous inpsections

2. I stated and provided updatedv documents and said I would put shcedules on the sites identified

3 I stated that I was going to review H&S by March the 1st and update documents

4 I sent an empty excel sheet with headings for recording checkbox resistances etc and attached a cooy of receipt for the in-service ed four book.

 

[Blue Duck]

Glad you got it sorted :B-

Careful with the logo mind

 

[NozSpark]

Here's the logo use guidelines ... They can be quite strict even for registered businesses

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=X5nnVOajEIbd7Qb7-4DACg&url=http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File10200.pdf&ved=0CBwQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHgjnPv3C2njeLSEjL96BxD30_4Pg&sig2=eElBS6mFhDkx2ADOeRF9qg

 

[martinxxxxxx]

Here's the logo use guidelines ... They can be quite strict even for registered businesses

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=X5nnVOajEIbd7Qb7-4DACg&url=http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File10200.pdf&ved=0CBwQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHgjnPv3C2njeLSEjL96BxD30_4Pg&sig2=eElBS6mFhDkx2ADOeRF9qg

Oh crap fell at the first hurdle, I have changed it and I am using all thier software now so I should be OK

 

[Andy™]

Oh crap fell at the first hurdle, I have changed it and I am using all thier software now so I should be OK

you can now go out and do as much dodgy / dangerous work as you like and bodge everything with no comeback from NIC, but do not under any circumstance mis-use their logo or you will be invited to court within hours...