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TimBoo

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I have just been told by a visiting electrician that Pyro is no longer in use and is prone to breakdown of the insulation. Is this true?

 
Are we questioning the validity and reliability of the Pyro or this electrician? I know which one I would have more confidence in!

Doc H

 
No.

Pyro is a bit like rocking horse **** but it's still used, more for specific applications like petrol stations.

It is quite expensive to install and not many know how to do it so they normally install swa or FP.

As long as it tests out okay and is not too exposed to the elements then it should be fine for continuous use.

What is it being used for?

 
After 80 odd years it is suddenly deemed to be no good !!!    I think not  TimBoo . 

The insulation only  breaks down  if the cable is punctured or the pots are not sealed properly .

I've done miles of it over the years , theres nothing wrong with it ,  excellent for high temp. / furnaces / nuclear reactors /  fire protection  etc .  Totally non combustible construction . 

Your visiting spark is talking through his bottle .

 
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The only thing that survived the Chunnel fire IIRC.

Nothing wrong with it, perfectly fine, should be used more IMHO.

It is the only cable type to pass all the fire resistance tests on the same bit of cable, IIRC al the "FP" types can only meet one of them at a time.

However, apparently that is OK?

Keep your Pyro, change your (incompetent) electrician.

The ONLY reason Pyro will "break down" is as has already been suggested poor installation, modification, damage or maintenance.

Perhaps apart from looking to your current, so called, spark, you need to look back to your previous so called, sparks, if you have, or have potential for, damaged "pyro" then it's their fault.

 
Canoeboy said:
Things I Love

1. SWA

2. AWA

3. MICC (Pyro)

4. SY

5. CY

6. YY

7. H07

8. Tri Rated

Things i hate

1. T&E

2. Tails

3. Stranded Singles

4. FP rubbish

As said above change your electrician for one who knows what he is talking about
I would have to move your "love" 2 to my hate 3 TBH.

Try working 16mm AWA in street lighting columns which are 30 yr old and never had "densal" paste on the connections when they were installed.

I don't mind 7 strand singles so much TBH.

Tails, PITA.

T&E, only because it's domestic! Normally, or at least should be.

 
I enjoy pyro, kinda therapeutic I find,

installed roll upon roll upon roll of it a few years back round the outside of a metal clad building at high level,

was a glorious summer, 2002 IIRC, good scaffolding, and a decent labourer helping me, oh happy days,

7 day weeks and on extra 'dirty' money because it was a knackers yard and,

A :- nobody else would work there because of the smell, [you got used to it after a week, and got paid half an hour to shower every night before going home + £20 laundry money]

B :- I dont think there was anyone else in the firm had ever worked with PYRO/MICC before

 
Best stuff in the world, and it can withstand an Electro Magnetic Pulse from a nuclear explosion, as well as the boring things like fire, heat, vermin attack etc. etc. I have been to a few fires where Pyro was the only electrics that survived.  Plus I used to like doing it.  Not done much Pyro in recent years but still have my homemade stripping poker, compression and potting tool. 

 
100+m of public highway works was not going to happen the last time I had to work with AWA!

Oh and it was 2 core, 16mm forgot that one.

16mm solid strand is a so and so to bend into shape in the base of a street light column trust me, especially when there is no slack, buried direct, and, the armour is rotting away because it is on top of a landfill site, and near the sea!

Oh joy.

Got the EFLI down, pasted them up and put the next insp date as a year IIRC!

Oh and got paid for it, KME, Voltz & I worked on that, & JonoP worked on part of the job to on another of their sites.

 
Canoeboy said:
For AWA i meant new - if its 30 years old and badly installed i'd condemn it and quote for new :slap

And all my installs are done properly with the relevant paste and tape etc
a little monkee bird told me you were rough as Fk,

and you needed subbies on the awkward jobs to get them up to standard,,,  :slap

 
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