Quick Question AKA inspection for estate agent

[bradley2910]

We have just sold our house and when we bought it we knocked the kitchen through and had a new downstairs lighting circuit and ring main re wired. now the estate agents want some sort of certification does anyone know what that might be people have told me a periodic? Also do i need someone with a 2391 to sign this off

 

[ajkend]

I cant see how this will stop you selling your house.

 

[shed69]

You should have had certificates anyway and part p notification if done in the last 7 years.... An eicr should suffice now as you will not be able to get a spark who hasn't installed it to issue cert.... Who did the alteration to the circuits? And no you don't need 2391 to carry out eicr

 

[Doc Hudson]

It would be a Part P building regulations compliance certificate if the work has been undertaken since January 2005. Building regulations are a statutory document, with the homeowner liable for any non-compliance. Any reputable electrician would have provided you with an appropriate electrical certificate confirming they have tested the works and that they are safe to reduce the risk of shock or fire. They would also have notified your LABC to issue a Part P compliance certificate. You could get back in touch with the electrician who did the work to issue your copies of his certificates.

Doc H.

 

[bradley2910]

He's gone abroad now and no never asked for certificates as we planned to stay longer than we have but circumstances have arisen the work was done as a favour you see. And the work was done roughly in 2008?

 

[Sharpend]

Oops! Not such a favour after all.

You will need to speak with your building control office and see if they can help you out, they may accept a EICR (periodic report), although they are not supposed too at present. But worse things have happened at sea!

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

He's gone abroad now and no never asked for certificates as we planned to stay longer than we have but circumstances have arisen the work was done as a favour you see. And the work was done roughly in 2008?

You would have thought he would have done a proper job as it was a favour....

sounds as though he was either...

1/ Incompetent not knowing what he was doing..

or

2/ deliberate stringing you along doing half a job!...

Every competent professional electrician would be well away of the existence a of part P building regualtions......

{ unless it was just a builder / kitchen fitter who did to botch.... }

Or just a DIY with no mystery sparky after all...

BS7671 (wiring regulations) have required proper tests and certificates to be issued for alterations and new work for donkeys years before Part p came about..

---------- Post Auto-Merged at 23:32 ---------- Previous post was made at 23:30 ----------

It wasn't you was it......

as one of your property maintenance projects????

http://www.talk.electricianforum.co.uk/do-yourself-diy-electrical-forum-electrics/19673-starting-side-business.html

:innocent

 

[ProDave]

Are you SURE the work wasn't done in 2005 before part P came in? :innocent

 

[m4tty]

Are you SURE the work wasn't done in 2005 before part P came in? :innocent

So that's what that drum of red/black is for on the back of the van ?

 

[Doc Hudson]

So that's what that drum of red/black is for on the back of the van ?

Harmonised colours cut-off date was 31 Mar 2006, Part P was Jan 2005, so red black cables could still be notifiable.

Doc H.

 

[Andy™]

Harmonised colours cut-off date was 31 Mar 2006, Part P was Jan 2005, so red black cables could still be notifiable.Doc H.

and brown / blue was available 2004, so even if in new colours, it may have been before part p

 

[ProDave]

So that's what that drum of red/black is for on the back of the van ?

But that's generally accepted folklaw, even if not strictly true. Which is why red/black cable usually sells on ebay for more than brown/black.

I put that to the test myself, I sold a few 10 metre lengths of 2.5 t&e red / black on ebay and they sold for more than the price of new cable. Better than taking it to the scrapie, certainly for longer lengths.

 

[steptoe]

[quote name='Andy

 

[bradley2910]

hi there just sold the house and need certificate for rewire of kitchen that was carried out 6 years ago can i sign off the certificate myself as i have just passed my nvq level 3 apprenticeship? also is there a way to print off certificates online or do i have to buy them. the work was done by a sparky as a favour and who is now abroad?

 

[steptoe]

EICR is all you can legally issue for the work.

 

[NozSpark]

Just get the standard forms from the IETs website

 

[bradley2910]

do you have a link for these as i cant seem to find them also i can sign them?

 

[NozSpark]

do you have a link for these as i cant seem to find them also i can sign them?

Forms for electrical contractors - IET Electrical

Downloads are on the right hand side

And anyone who's competent can sign them

 

[ProDave]

Are you sure it's not a Part P certificate you are being asked for?

 

[green-hornet]

Unfortunately you have highlighted a major problem with Part P and the failings with its inception. We all know that favours are used in all trades, but when that trade is regulated and people who embrace the regulations and pay extra for insurance and notification are undercut by favours from those who are not registered we find the problems you now face. The answer to your question is no, you can not sign any kind of Electrical Installation Certificate (EIC), what you could do, if you can prove competancy in a court of law, is sign an Electrical Installation Condition Report(EICR). There is a saying "you get what you pay for", and in this instance you have paid good money for nothing worthwhile, any Part P registered electrician would have provided you with a valid certificate that for a domestic installation would have lasted for at least 10 years and you would not now be asking this question but spending the money you have just gained from the successful house sale.