Running pvc cables on metal frame for suspended ceiling in domestic

[kamiloon]

Hi Guys,

One bed flat in concrete block of flats.

Ceiling gonna be suspended on metal frame in order to put down lighters in it. How can I run pvc twin&earth cables? Shall I put them in to copex or shall I earthed the metal frame? Please can any one talk me through how is the best way and proper procedure to do that.

Thanks

 

[Blue Duck]

won't the plasterboard be screwed to the frame?

 

[Sharpend]

drill concrete ceiling and plug and screw metal band or other suitable fixing for cable support. 

Not permitted to drape / throw cables directly over suspended ceiling frame. 

 

[Andy™]

as above, metal band screwed to the ceiling works well

 

[kamiloon]

won't the plasterboard be screwed to the frame?

Yes, the plaster board will be screwed to the frame.

Thank You for replay 

 

[kamiloon]

drill concrete ceiling and plug and screw metal band or other suitable fixing for cable support. 

Not permitted to drape / throw cables directly over suspended ceiling frame. 

Would you mind to direct me where is it mention that in Bs7671 please, I did not made AMD 3 of regs and I would like to know and fulfill all BS's 

Thanks for answer

 

[Davethsparky]

Stick a catenary up for the main run across the room 

 

[kamiloon]

as above, metal band screwed to the ceiling works well

Thanks 

 

[shanky887614]

have you not seen how the BMS chaps install over a suspended ceiling ? Not to mention the alarm and networking lot.......

Just Spaghetti-ing

oi, it takes practise to make a birds nest in a reasonable amount of time^^

 

[ProDave]

When you said metal frame, I first thought you were talking ceiling tiles as in an Office.

If you are just putting up a suspended plasterboard ceiling, forget the metal frame work. Frame it up in timber, then you can just clip your cables to the top of the timber frame and screw the plasterboard to the bottom.

Why make life difficult?

 

[steptoe]

metal framework,

like drywall,

its,

lighter, easier, quicker,

 

[ProDave]

metal framework,

like drywall,

its,

lighter, easier, quicker,

Not when you then have to ****** about finding a way to support your cables.

It won't take long to knock up a timber framework and fix that in place.

 

[roys]

Never used the metal stud work myself for stud walls but any I have seen have smoothed edged holes for cables going through.  Back to the OP I thought he was referring to the metal grid type suspended ceilings used in offices and shops.

 

[binky]

Would you mind to direct me where is it mention that in Bs7671 please, I did not made AMD 3 of regs and I would like to know and fulfill all BS's 

Thanks for answer

don't think it's in the big book, I seem to rememer it being in the OSG or on the NICEIC website. Anyway, the general remit is not to throw cables across sharp egded bits of metal, to avoid this, cable tray, catenary wire, etc etc are recommended to avoid cable sitting on the frame, not that many people take much notice. However, most of that info refers to office ceilings, what you are talking about is a bit different. Think you will have to make an assessment based on the system being fitted.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Cable tie to the support drops may be easier in this type of job.

 

[kamiloon]

Cable tie to the support drops may be easier in this type of job.

Thanks all of You for ideas

 

[shanky887614]

Cable tie to the support drops may be easier in this type of job.

thats how a lot of guys do it especially with suspended ceilings, thats if your lucky when there is no containment in