shocking pat tester at my work?

[benlincs]

i assume you've got to be qualified to pat test(2377) not just a competent person?and use correct equiptment?

well at work there's a bloke doing pat testing and doesn't seem to have a clue, failed a stereo (Class II) for having no earth?, lets a power drill a (IEC 'Kettle type' lead) extension to be used even though it's wired the wrong way so the pin(male) ends connected to the socket leaving exposed live pin? does't check cables/grips for damage or correct fuses, somehow i don't think he's qualified

also his 'PAT' tester is an analog meter (dial with pass or fail) with a socket front,where i used to work we had a tester did the works , continuty,insulation, flash ect,

i've done C&G 6958 (electronic/Electrical service & repair)

and C&G 2330 Level 2

 

[Risteard]

The requirement for any and all electrical work is competence. There is no requirement to hold any qualifications for any work.

 

[benlincs]

so could i pat test without doing the course?

i'm deffo a more than competent, my 6958 course(and previous job) went above and beyond the requirements for pat testing, we have to do checks before returning repaired items back to the customer,

 

[Risteard]

If you are competent then there is nothing to stop you. Unless there is a contractual requirement from your client/employer/whoever for you to have the 2377-12 qualification then there certainly isn't any legal requirement.

 

[steptoe]

Im currently training/teaching one of our storemen to do PAT testing,

as a lot of the tools are passed through the stores on a regular basis its easier if he can do it rather than me having to chase them up on site somewhere.

he also has more time to do it, and if something flags up wrong/strange/faulty then he passes it on to me to sort(damaged leads etc)

 

[jl-heating]

yes there is no qualifications req to pat test, very similar to the fact you can do pir`s without any qualifications what so ever ..

the word competence is often thrown into the conversation but not req ... but advised.

 

[green-hornet]

I have the relevant C&G certificate for PA testing so long ago I can not remember of hand what it is (2377) or something, anyway I am rambling, I often see this, the tests that took me 3 or 4 days being done in 6 hours by one guy, no fuses checked no cables checked just labeled. He probably did the labels in an hour found some hiding place and slept for the other 5 hours.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Who's PA tested their PA tester ?

 

[ElectekAir]

so could i pat test without doing the course? i'm deffo a more than competent, my 6958 course(and previous job) went above and beyond the requirements for pat testing, we have to do checks before returning repaired items back to the customer,

But if it comes down to it and you are standing in the dock you are only deemed competent if you have the qual's

Same with 7671

 

[Risteard]

the word competence is often thrown into the conversation but not req ... but advised.

Competence is a legal requirement.

 

[Risteard]

But if it comes down to it and you are standing in the dock you are only deemed competent if you have the qual'sSame with 7671

That's oversimplifying it. The qualification may help, but will not of itself demonstrate that you are competent. Neither will not having the qualification prove anyone incompetent.

You would need to demonstrate that you had the technical knowledge and experience to understand the dangers. If you do, then you are competent to undertake that type of work.

Certainly it might be in one's interests for a variety of reasons to undertake certain qualifications but adherence to the Electricity at Work Regulations and other statutory instruments is imperative.

 

[Couleddie]

The 2377 is a joke. An eye test is harder and the fact you don't need it to actually do PAT testing makes it even more ridiculous. A qualification in common sense would be a lot more useful but the failure rate for this would be astronomical.

PAT testing just seems to now be an excuse to rip people off. How many of the people doing it actually have a knowledge of the appliances they are testing? I could test my kettle today and bung a nice little green sticker on it to prove it and then it could blow up the next day!

The thing that sticks in my mind is a conversation I heard at the wholesalers a few weeks ago. Two blokes were talking about how busy they were and one said he was knocking off early after a day of PAT testing. The other bloke asked him when he was going to start doing some real work again.

To me, that just about sums up this whole PAT testing lark. Good business for sticker manufacturers and that's about it.

bad day explode

 

[sparkyrj]

This person obviously is not competent and is the sort of person who should be sent on a pat testing course. Somebody ie health and safety rep at the company where the testing is being carried out should be told about this.

 

[benlincs]

This person obviously is not competent and is the sort of person who should be sent on a pat testing course. Somebody ie health and safety rep at the company where the testing is being carried out should be told about this.

here's the best bit, the gold encrusted turd Wet Fish, he is the health and safety 'rep', i think also if something fails it goes straight in the skip ,i think if your pat testing you should also repair/rectify problems e.g incorrect fuse, damaged cable,cable grips ect , it's not much use to anyone if you jsut put a failed sticker on it :Applaud

i did electrical/electronic (tv/commercial ect) repair, so electrical safety and inspecting was something we did before starting work and returning it to the customer, cover's your back really, just a shame i'm a spanner monkey lol moneys good though

 

[sparkyrj]

There's no hope then if the safety reps doing it. I know of one like that. He has been known to go up on the forks of a forklift to work at hight and things like that.

 

[benlincs]

There's no hope then if the safety reps doing it. I know of one like that. He has been known to go up on the forks of a forklift to work at hight and things like that.

do you secretly work at my place, health & safety is a myth not a regulation,

 

[sparkyrj]

Ha, yes sounds like a common problem then.