shower connection

[batty]

OK it's a new cable, but I do not see any difference..When you change a CU and ask to see the previous EIC how many do you get to see??

When you change a CU all the cables have been installed by someone else!!

When you change a CU you have no idea as to the installation methods used!!

When you change a CU you do not know know where the cables run!! (or if they are even in the approved zones!)

When you change a CU you can test and inspect the accessible parts of the installation only!!

The only difference is that this cable might have only been installed a week earlier....

I am not saying that I would not want to see as much of the cable as possible, or that I would not load my price a bit....I would also tell them off a bit

You are still installing a new circuit. Consumer unit change has existing circuits so you only have to test loop to verify circuit breaker will operate under fault conditions. I am not saying I would not do job but I think you have to be careful what you are taking on. If the worst where to ever happen in a court of law how would it look if you said you only connected cable in. It could ruin your life. And just remember you are signing part p cert saying work complies.

Batty

 

[NozSpark]

Sorry, but a CU replacement requires full and complete testing, not just Zs.

In this circumstance I think you just have to be very careful as to what you write on the certificate to limit your liability as much as possible, same on Part P notification

 

[batty]

Sorry, but a CU replacement requires full and complete testing, not just Zs.In this circumstance I think you just have to be very careful as to what you write on the certificate to limit your liability as much as possible, same on Part P notification

Sorry where did you get that from.

Batty

 

[NozSpark]

I'm getting confused now...where did I get what from??

 

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I'm getting confused now...where did I get what from??

have a beerGuiness Drink

press re-wind!

 

[dan.]

lol . Started something now havent i. Im goin lookin at the job tomoz, if the cable is in dodgy places and not in the proper zones im walkin. Like wise cable size, i need the work but not enough to get in trouble .

 

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lol . Started something now havent i. Im goin lookin at the job tomoz, if the cable is in dodgy places and not in the proper zones im walkin. Like wise cable size, i need the work but not enough to get in trouble .

Blimey Dan...

you an after midnight guy????

Summary..

some would/Some wouldn't..

but if you do..

make sure you clearly identify "YOUR" work on the cert

 

[dan.]

ill write it in red ink too for effect:^O

 

[dan.]

right o been and had a looksee,cable run is ok apart from 2 metres in the bloody cavityX( its in some large trunking but there is cavity insulation(the ball bearing stuff).its 10mm cable powering a 10.5kw shower.hes "removed" the insulation from where the cable is but im still not happy.what to do what to do??

 

[NozSpark]

What did you tell him then??

If you are not happy with it (I wouldn't be either btw) then you either get him to pay you to re route it, he re route's it himself (to your satisfaction) or you walk....

Did you give him a slap with steps' stick??

 

[dan.]

still undecided as yet.

couldnt find his stick so used a bit of 3x2 i had lying round:^O

 

[Theorysparky]

Dan

advise him that the routing of the cables do not meet regulations and that it needs to be re-routed.

if he is not happy with your observations,,,,,,,walk

 

[dan.]

so far ive got the derating factor to consider (shower wants 45amps,cable in trunking in insulated wall is only good for 43amps)possibility of damp going down cable into house,could have damaged cable pulling it up cavity.

any more reasons not to use the cavity?

 

[NozSpark]

Yeh,

Cables should not be run in cavities (it's against the regs),

Possible contact with polystyrene

Possible bridging of cavity

 

[dan.]

ive been over the regs and cant actually find a reg stating its a no no.

it seems to be more of a bad practise issue than a straight reg issue,or did i miss summat?

 

[springcrocus]

Is the cable vertical within the cavity?

Can you use Reg. 522.8.4 - unsupported cable?

 

[dan.]

aye it is but the trunking is fixed to the inside leaf so probably is supporting the cable.

 

[NozSpark]

How the hell did he get trunking up a cavity and attach it to the inner leaf???

 

[dan.]

took some bricks out i think lol,surely it would have been easier to trunk it on the outside?

 

[NozSpark]

took some bricks out i think lol,surely it would have been easier to trunk it on the outside?

Far too much time on his hands!! :^O :^O