Socket in shower room

[AcombAndy]

This shower room was built in the last 6 months. The washing machine is plugged into an IP66 socket directly behind it. 'Apparently' it was Building Control' who suggested this and it has been signed off. BGB p200, OSG p82 say 3 meters. Why is this OK?

 

[Andy™]

its not OK. it could be wired through a fused spur though

 

[shed69]

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[ProDave]

It's not okay. Whoever signed it off was wrong.

What should have been done was to make a separate small utility room with it's own door to house the washing machine, then it would have been okay.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Out of interest, since the 17th edition has anyone worked in a bathroom big enough that sockets could be fitted ?

We have done a couple that the room would have been big enough except the baths have been in the middle of the room so not enough distance left.

 

[Andy™]

Out of interest, since the 17th edition has anyone worked in a bathroom big enough that sockets could be fitted ?We have done a couple that the room would have been big enough except the baths have been in the middle of the room so not enough distance left.

i did price a job at a house a while back to move some sockets in a corner of a bedroom... so they could fit a bath there.

never got the job, dont think they liked the idea of nearest socket being 3mtr

 

[AcombAndy]

Thanks for the replies, all cct's have RCDs on, just wondered if I'd missed something in the regs. The owner was showing me what a nice shower room he had, I was there because two of the upstairs smoke alarms only come on when the bathroom light is switched on....

 

[ProDave]

Out of interest, since the 17th edition has anyone worked in a bathroom big enough that sockets could be fitted ?We have done a couple that the room would have been big enough except the baths have been in the middle of the room so not enough distance left.

Yes

I did a rewire on a small cottage being renovated.

They wanted an en-suite shower in one of the bedrooms, and it was a small bedroom. The opposite corner of the room to the shower cubicle was JUST 3 metres away, so it limited me to fitting just one double 13A socket right into the corner of the room, just meeting the 3M requirement.

I know full well they have placed a chest of drawers right next to the shower cubicle and have a tv sat on there, run from an extension lead plugged into the only socket that I fitted.

You might well argue it would have been safer if I had been able to fit a socket next to the chest of drawers to avoid the need for the extension lead, but regs are regs and I wasn't going to put my neck on the block. If he chooses to use an extension lead, that's his business.

It's a good job 17th allows this. Under 16th he would either have had to accept a bedroom without a socket (and run the extension lead from a socket just outside the room) or have to erect a partition wall to divide the shower off into a separate room, which given it was a small room just wouldn't have worked.

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I was there because two of the upstairs smoke alarms only come on when the bathroom light is switched on....

Doh, that was wired wrong then.

 

[mikep]

Why is it that when you go abroad they supply a mains hair dryer for you to throw in the sink plus another socket just to make sure !!!!

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

YesI did a rewire on a small cottage being renovated.

They wanted an en-suite shower in one of the bedrooms, and it was a small bedroom. The opposite corner of the room to the shower cubicle was JUST 3 metres away, so it limited me to fitting just one double 13A socket right into the corner of the room, just meeting the 3M requirement.

I know full well they have placed a chest of drawers right next to the shower cubicle and have a tv sat on there, run from an extension lead plugged into the only socket that I fitted.

You might well argue it would have been safer if I had been able to fit a socket next to the chest of drawers to avoid the need for the extension lead, but regs are regs and I wasn't going to put my neck on the block. If he chooses to use an extension lead, that's his business.

It's a good job 17th allows this. Under 16th he would either have had to accept a bedroom without a socket (and run the extension lead from a socket just outside the room) or have to erect a partition wall to divide the shower off into a separate room, which given it was a small room just wouldn't have worked.

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But if you put a bed in a shower room then its not a special location any more. Its a bedroom that has a shower in it & different rules apply

 

[ProDave]

But if you put a bed in a shower room then its not a special location any more. Its a bedroom that has a shower in it & different rules apply

Please elaborate. Perhaps I've been misunderstanding things.

The regs refer to a room containing a bath or a shower. I don't recall those regs referring also to a bed.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Please elaborate. Perhaps I've been misunderstanding things.The regs refer to a room containing a bath or a shower. I don't recall those regs referring also to a bed.

You have just raised a point i had not thought about. I still had my 16th edition head on when i made the bed comment. I have quite a few customers that have shower cubicles and sinks in the bedrooms (mainly large families) The 17th edition has simplified the 'bathroom ' regs and those bedrooms now fall under the rules of section 701. I hope i dont get asked to do any work in those rooms