swimming pool heater 2,800W

[WelshY]

We have a swimming pool and want to run our heater but the plug is getting hot. The extension lead is running a 13amp fuse.

the extension lead is not a heavy duty and rated a 2400W load with 10amp fuse but i change the fuse to a 13amp and ran it

through a rcd plug but still getting warm, 

Is there a lead i can safely run it on without installing a outside plug into the mains 

 

[Evans Electric]

I just answered this , then re thought it .

A proper supply , designed for the rating of the pool heater  should be installed by a competent electrician.

The phrase "Heavy duty"   means nothing really . 

 

[Andy™]

so you know you have an extension capable of a max of 2400w, you know that the heater is 2800w and you are surprised that its getting warm? id suggest throwing it in the pool, at least that will stop it overheating and catching fire. and RCD does not magically reduce the total load to something acceptable (but it might save your life if you come into contact with a live wire, which tbh, is fairly likely)

you need an extension that is capable of 13a. ideally, it should be hard wired into a dedicated supply

 

[WelshY]

so you know you have an extension capable of a max of 2400w, you know that the heater is 2800w and you are surprised that its getting warm? id suggest throwing it in the pool, at least that will stop it overheating and catching fire. and RCD does not magically reduce the total load to something acceptable (but it might save your life if you come into contact with a live wire, which tbh, is fairly likely)

you need an extension that is capable of 13a. ideally, it should be hard wired into a dedicated supply




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I thought 2400W load was with a 10amp , so i changed it to a 13amp 2800w/240v = 11.8amp ?

 

[WelshY]

I thought 2400W load was with a 10amp , so i changed it to a 13amp 2800w/240v = 11.8amp ?




 

11.6 but 11.8 with 32W filter as well 

 

[Andy™]

you know the extension is not capable of supplying the load, yet you continued to use it to do so, whilst putting a bigger fuse in. this is exactly how fires start

either this is a wind up, or you should stick to playing with nothing bigger than a AA battery before you kill someone (which unfortunately, would probably be some innocent person and not yourself)

 

[steptoe]

I thought 2400W load was with a 10amp , so i changed it to a 13amp 2800w/240v = 11.8amp ?

Actually,

Its 12.2amps  (12.17 to be precise)

Oh, and its a 10amp fuse as the cable/wire/flex used to make the extension lead is only capable if carrying 10amp

 

[WelshY]

you know the extension is not capable of supplying the load, yet you continued to use it to do so, whilst putting a bigger fuse in. this is exactly how fires start

either this is a wind up, or you should stick to playing with nothing bigger than a AA battery before you kill someone (which unfortunately, would probably be some innocent person and not yourself)




 




 





 

This is why I'm seeking advice on here, The lead on the extension is blue and  working the load out by 10amp/240v=2400w 

But on the plug it says 13amp so i thought put  a 13amp fuse would be the correct amp for the load, after monitoring the heat of the plug

i decided it not safe and to seek advice.  

So no extension is capable of taking the load? as i have seen reel extensions 25m 13amp 3200W

 

[Sharpend]

Don't want to state the obvious, but if you've seen the extension lead rated for 3200w then why not buy one? Please remember that you will have to fully unwind the extension lead otherwise you'll have a dangerous gooey mess. 

 

[Badger]

You could buy a larger size extension lead or you could even ask a qualified spark to install a suitable sized armoured supply from.your rcd protected fuseboard direct to the connection of the swimming pool heater therefore preventing a fire happening wouldn't that be the better and safer option?!

 And the plug is maximum rated at13 amps but the actual flex cable and sockets on the extension are only rated to carry the current of 10 amps on the extension lead sockets itself 

 

[Andy™]

This is why I'm seeking advice on here, The lead on the extension is blue and  working the load out by 10amp/240v=2400w 

But on the plug it says 13amp so i thought put  a 13amp fuse would be the correct amp for the load, after monitoring the heat of the plug

i decided it not safe and to seek advice.  

So no extension is capable of taking the load? as i have seen reel extensions 25m 13amp 3200W

everything is always rated to the weakest part. in this case, the extension clearly states its max rating is 2400w due the its design. the fact that a plug is capable of more is irrelevant, thats just a small part of it

extension leads do exist that will take that load, but you need to get one that is designed for it, not a cheaper one that is not designed for it then change the fuse 'because the plug says 13a'

You could buy a larger size extension lead or you could even ask a qualified spark to install a suitable sized armoured supply from.your rcd protected fuseboard direct to the connection of the swimming pool heater therefore preventing a fire happening wouldn't that be the better and safer option?!

at least he has plenty water near by

 

[Blue Duck]

÷230V as it is supposed to be the standard UK voltage.

therefore....

even a 13a FCU isn't capable of taking 13a for a sustained period of time.

16a dedicated radial would be best in this situition with a 16a socket outlet.

 

[Rob_the_rich]

If the plug is getting hot, changing the extension lead will not make the plug cool down, it will still get hot since the same amount of power is going through it.

Swimming pool locations are notifiable under Part P

Please get a sparky in.

 

[WelshY]

As we live in a private rental, the landlord is not allowing for holes to be drilled this is why we looking at other possible  ways. 

 

[Andy™]

a decent, good quality extension lead should work

 

[WelshY]

a decent, good quality extension lead should work

something like this ? 2.5mm lead

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004R255VQ/

 

[Rob_the_rich]

What is your pool heater? Can you give us a link.

If a medium sized outdoor pool I can imagine that it would be on constantly.

If the plug is getting hot, the socket will also get hot, something is bound to give.

I don't think the thermal cut-out will sense overheating of the plug.

You might also have a problem with voltage drop.

 

[WelshY]

What is your pool heater? Can you give us a link.

If a medium sized outdoor pool I can imagine that it would be on constantly.

If the plug is getting hot, the socket will also get hot, something is bound to give.

I don't think the thermal cut-out will sense overheating of the plug.

You might also have a problem with voltage drop.




 

it's a 10ft pool manual can be found here 

http://www.bestwayswimmingpools.co.uk/shopimages/products/extras/manuals/bestway-pool-heater-bw58259.pdf

http://www.bestwayswimmingpools.co.uk/product/80/bw58259-bestway-above-ground-pool-heater--

 

[Rob_the_rich]

Sorry for all these questions, but how long was the extension lead you tried before?

And how far from the socket is the pool?

is it a proper pool or inflatable, just checking.

 

[WelshY]

Sorry for all these questions, but how long was the extension lead you tried before?

And how far from the socket is the pool?

is it a proper pool or inflatable, just checking.




 

inflatable above ground pool, the socket is indoor about 18ft away  the lead using is 15m