like a lot of quangos, the ECA/ NICEIC etc etc seem to have lost they're way. It should represent the views of the trade as well as recommend improvements in standards. EG apart from hating metal boards, I still don't see any need to RCD lighting ccts, it just makes them unreliable and confuses little old ladies. OK someone might knock a nail in a wall and hit a cable, but chances are pretty high they would survive even if they do. Part P is/was half baked, part scope for plumbers and builders should never have been allowed, like wise a full training course should be the only route of entry to the trade (I say this as someone who is guilty of exploiting this loophole). If the NICEIC and other registration bodies were genuinely interested in our opinions, then they would be pushing the agenda to remove 5WW wonder courses, but they aren't! Hence, this year, I have registered with Stroma after over 10 years with NICEIC, for part P and MCS and not full scope AC (or Stroma equivalent) as it saves me over £400. Can't say I like Stroma with their premium phone lines, but then I'm not planning to call them anytime soon.