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Through crimps, are they that bad?
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Thats it and always use the nearest size lug or crimp for the size of the cable you are using. Personally I prefer wagos as they are a lot easier and quicker to use and once in they are a swine to pull out.
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but thats only if they are in some kind of enclosure. otherwise they would be single insulated
good to see im not the only one who is bored at 0720!
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I have used a lot of the cheaper version of Wagos, made by IDEAL. Once terminated, tuck them neatly into a Choc Box and the job is a good 'um. Perminant joint and no need to be visale for inspection.
I did order and receive, a smple of the wago and wago box. The box was massive and the wago wasn't too far behind.
However, I haven't tried with the IEDAL version, but the Wago terminals can be reused, all you have to do is twist and pull the conductor back out.
I did order and receive, a smple of the wago and wago box. The box was massive and the wago wasn't too far behind.
However, I haven't tried with the IEDAL version, but the Wago terminals can be reused, all you have to do is twist and pull the conductor back out.
i use these
they do them in 2, 4 5 and 8 way. iirc, the 8 way wago is cheaper though
they do them in 2, 4 5 and 8 way. iirc, the 8 way wago is cheaper though
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My understanding is that through crimps are acceptable because they are a permenant joint, and for that reaon they do not require to be accessible.
Anything else that the cable can be removed from, would not be permenant, and should therefore be accessible for inspection.
Anything else that the cable can be removed from, would not be permenant, and should therefore be accessible for inspection.
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I full approve of the use of through crimps (and other crimps) on stranded cable, but I don't like their use on solid core. I was working on a theatre a while back and when I opened a recently installed dimmer it was full of through crimps connecting to solid core and you could pull the solid core conductors out easily and many of them were just spinning in the crimp. For that and various other reasons including the "fake" earth (A generously sized earth cable tucked up behind an isolator and attached to the brick wall with a rawl bolt!) I failed the installation and recommended that they take the issue up with the original "contractor".
I would only use a proper ratchet crimping tool. The cheapo squeezy ones are not suitable for anything other than shortening screws.
The Wago connectors are interesting. When I was doing lighting on Disney Studios in Paris all the electrical joints were done with Wago style connectors. They aren't really designed for re-use, so wherever a wiring screw-up had occurred there was generally a pile of chopped off Wago's lying in the vicinity. They also had an interesting cabling system that consisted of heavy wire basket with a continuous earth cable run along its length and tapped onto it (and other bonds) at regular intervals. The cabling itself was basically round twin and earth installed by immigrant slaves under the control of a few French guys.
I would only use a proper ratchet crimping tool. The cheapo squeezy ones are not suitable for anything other than shortening screws.
The Wago connectors are interesting. When I was doing lighting on Disney Studios in Paris all the electrical joints were done with Wago style connectors. They aren't really designed for re-use, so wherever a wiring screw-up had occurred there was generally a pile of chopped off Wago's lying in the vicinity. They also had an interesting cabling system that consisted of heavy wire basket with a continuous earth cable run along its length and tapped onto it (and other bonds) at regular intervals. The cabling itself was basically round twin and earth installed by immigrant slaves under the control of a few French guys.
you can get reusable wago's
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Hi jib bought one from these people half the price.sorry mate just checked the website just doubled in price,
depends on the box. generally no. hole aint fully aligned etc
but these may be better if you want to drill holes (there not brittle like other backboxes)
but these may be better if you want to drill holes (there not brittle like other backboxes)
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