Wiring IR dimmer switch into loop circuit

[Stokesy]

Ive changed my bedroom light switch for an IR dimmer. It works as an IR dimmer fine. However it randomly turns on by itself, and sometimes when other lights upstairs are turned on.

I have it wired:

Live wire into live connector

Neutral wire into connector marked with an arrow with wiggly line through it, I think this means load?

There is also 's' connector empty (slave)

I wired one into my livingroom and that's working fine.

Also changed the connectors around and it still turns on!!

 

[Andy™]

there is no neutral...

 

[Stokesy]

Good point. So can what is normally the neutral be substituted for the switched live??

 

[paul b b]

could you take a pic for us to look at please

 

[Stokesy]

Will post the photo tommorow as I'm just using phone at min as no Internet for laptop yet cos recently moved. Had to turn upstairs lights trip off for tonight, every few hours the light turns on..

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Its not a neutral. Its the switch line that should have been sleeved brown or red.

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Do you have any compact fluorecent lamps (energy saving) , or fluorecents ( bathroom cabinet ?) on the same circuit, these can interfere with this sort of switch

 

[Stokesy]

Yeah it is blue with a bit of brown sleeve on it going into the load connector. The switch itself only operates the bedroom. But directly behind that switch is the landing switch, and that bulb is energy saving. I assume it must be on the same circuit as its on the same trip switch...

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

If you read the instructions it should mention this. The landing light may have its cables running in the same conduit as your bedroom and if the landing has 2 way switching its a known problem that low energy lamps can pick up an induced current (even when switched off) and this could be induced into your bedroom light causing the IR switch to operate

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Swap the landing light bulb for a normal one for a night & see if that cures the problem

 

[Snapey]

Joy.......

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Also, the lights in other rooms you mention, are they energy saving ?

 

[Stokesy]

Ffs. So to over come this? Replace landing with normal bulb?

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No bathroom is proper fitting for bathroom and looks normal bulb. Back bedroom hasn't affected it. Just landing and occasionally bathroom.

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Just to make it harder, to change the bulb on landing I'll have to change the fitting, it's a proper new school energy saver fitting. With 4 metal prongs at each corner. Luckily I have a spare so will change that in daylight tomorrow.

 

[kme]

You could change it for a fitting that will take an LED lamp - so you still get (even better) energy saving, with a better light output, and no interference issues. win-win-win scenario

 

[Steve3948]

What's the fitting in the bedroom then, maybe fitting a Danlers CAPLOAD across the load on the fitting would stop the random switch on.

 

[Stokesy]

The fitting in the bedroom is normal bayonet fitting.

 

[Stokesy]

View attachment 4173Picture as requested, about to change landing fitting to normal bayonet first to see if this solves it.

 

[Stokesy]

Ok. Changed landing fitting to normal bayonet fitting. Gave it few hours. Bedroom light back on again??

So no energy saving on circuit. Dimmer wired correct, I think, see previous post for picture. Why does light turn on by itself?? Getting annoyed with it now and might have to pay for sparky to see why it's been stupid!

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Only thing I can think off, will I need to change any wiring in the fittings so its compliant with a dimmer? A previous post mentioned a capload, I am unsure of what this does how to fit it and if it will work? Thanks again.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Some other IR remote interfering ?

 

[kme]

Would be my guess too.

A few years ago, a taxi company started up locally - occasionally, my touch dimmers would come on/ go off when a taxi went past!!!!

Solution? Remove touch dimmer

 

[batty]

Or burn the taxi office down.

 

[Stokesy]

Ok, I have swapped the switch for one a back if house upstairs, on same circuit. That kept coming on. I ruled out outside interference as I live on a building site with 4 neighbors. After 5pm there is no passing traffic.

I have just swapped the switch with the livingroom dimmer downstairs, and now the livingroom keeps coming on upstairs is fine!

Dodgy Effing Dimmer all along..

Thanks for all your replies and ideas guys, got there in te end!