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Hi Steps, it is too complicated for ordinary folk!! I know it goes back to the normans i think. What is the think about scottish people going there, or irish people going from ireland to scotland?? My grannys mum was irish, is that good?? ha ha..

john..

 
A small bit of Irish history

The Norman invasion of the late 12th century marked the beginning of more than 800 years of direct English rule and, later, British involvement in Ireland. In 1177 Prince John Lackland was made Lord of Ireland by his father Henry II of England at the Council of Oxford.The Crown did not attempt to assert full control of the island until the rebellion of the Earl of Kildare threatened English hegemony. Henry VIII proclaimed himself King of Ireland and also tried to introduce the English Reformation, which failed in Ireland. Attempts to either conquer or assimilate the Irish lordships into the Kingdom of Ireland provided the initial impetus for a series of Irish military campaigns between 1534 and 1603. This period was marked by a Crown policy of plantation, involving the arrival of thousands of English and Scottish Protestant settlers, and the consequent displacement of the pre-plantation Catholic landholders. As the military and political defeat of Gaelic Ireland became more pronounced in the early seventeenth century, sectarian conflict became a recurrent theme in Irish history.

so it may have been an invasion but not the British but it was the Normans who at the time were in England for 100years then came the plantation that was just moving on the people that already live there

but did you know there were more rebellion's lead by protestant men then catholic ones (we have a song about that).  

It still makes me laugh that two people born in the same hospital bed, one thinks that he is British, the other is Irish.

I was not defending any party just pointing out that everyone needs to talk on all sides for pace to breakout.

 
Hi Poni,

then came the plantation that was just moving on the people that already live there


Is that not what is now referred to as "ethnic cleansing??"

Would it be possible to buy a house in a nice rural bit of the republic for about £180,000?? What are house prices like there??

Would the locals be friendly or are outsiders none too welcome??

john..

 
Corbyn will take the country back to the 70's Michael Foot reincarnated


Would that be a country where all the psychiatric hospitals had not been demolished, a country where one could get a job for life, a country where houses were affordable, a country where education was free, a country where schools and colleges were properly funded and did not run out of teaching materials, a country where you could do a proper apprenticeship, a country where the price of electricity, gas and water did not cripple you, a country where there was no shortage of social housing, a country where there was LOADS of industry??? [Need i go on???]

john...

 
ok so the Normans started it, the Viking descended Froggy bastards, and the English state, later British sent many armies there after. So when is sending an army not an invasion? :^O

Corbyn will take the country back to the 70's Michael Foot reincarnated
Nothing like Foot, a local lad to me. His family built my last house.

Have a look at this....sums up why we are skint with so much money being drained out of the UK

https://www.facebook.com/mark.mcgowan.969?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf#

 
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Would it be possible to buy a house in a nice rural bit of the republic for about £180,000?? What are house prices like there??

Would the locals be friendly or are outsiders none too welcome??
I am sure you would be made most welcome (we do like strangers, its just ourselves we can't get on with)  

in some parts you could buy a street of houses for £180,000 (what's that 200,000 euro)

I have seen 10 go for 210,000 euro all at different levels of completion, all in one lot 

 
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A small bit of Irish history

The Norman invasion of the late 12th century marked the beginning of more than 800 years of direct English rule and, later, British involvement in Ireland. In 1177 Prince John Lackland was made Lord of Ireland by his father Henry II of England at the Council of Oxford.The Crown did not attempt to assert full control of the island until the rebellion of the Earl of Kildare threatened English hegemony. Henry VIII proclaimed himself King of Ireland and also tried to introduce the English Reformation, which failed in Ireland. Attempts to either conquer or assimilate the Irish lordships into the Kingdom of Ireland provided the initial impetus for a series of Irish military campaigns between 1534 and 1603. This period was marked by a Crown policy of plantation, involving the arrival of thousands of English and Scottish Protestant settlers, and the consequent displacement of the pre-plantation Catholic landholders. As the military and political defeat of Gaelic Ireland became more pronounced in the early seventeenth century, sectarian conflict became a recurrent theme in Irish history.

so it may have been an invasion but not the British but it was the Normans who at the time were in England for 100years then came the plantation that was just moving on the people that already live there

but did you know there were more rebellion's lead by protestant men then catholic ones (we have a song about that).  

It still makes me laugh that two people born in the same hospital bed, one knows he is British, the other thinks they are Irish.

I was not defending any party just pointing out that everyone needs to talk on all sides for pace to breakout.


pretty well put poni  :Salute

ok so the Normans started it, the Viking descended Froggy bastards, and the English state, later British sent many armies there after. So when is sending an army not an invasion? :^O

Nothing like Foot, a local lad to me. His family built my last house.

Have a look at this....sums up why we are skint with so much money being drained out of the UK

https://www.facebook.com/mark.mcgowan.969?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf#


when its stated the wrong country invaded,,,,,,,,,

might be an idea to get out of the eu then if so much money is being drained out of the UK,    :innocent

I am sure you would be made most welcome (we do like strangers, its just ourselves we can't get on with)  

in some parts you could buy a street of houses for £180,000 (what's that 200,000 euro)

I have seen 10 go for 210,000 euro all at different levels of completion, all in one lot 


:Applaud

:slap

ye, we've recently been looking at some, 5 bed with half to an acre for sub £150k depending on area is possible

 
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that's not the British way old boy, to edit one's post without one's consent ,
Cricket,

I'm sure you mean its not cricket,

But cricket is ****, 

Isn't t the norn iron way to twist what anyone says to mean the opposite of what they actually meant,? :C

In Ballymena anyway, 

Aye, I will aye

actually means 

Not a fkn chance ye beaker ye

 
I was in Southern Ireland about 3 years ago, had to go out on a rush job, 29th of December, people most friendly but a lot of poverty, we came across this lovely little village and it was mostly empty, very sad could probably have bought the whole place for about 100K, place called Knockraha, iirc. generally I like the Irish, the northern folk tend to be quite loud and can seem a bit aggressive if you're not used to them, the Southern folk tend to speak softer and seem quieter, the wife's mother and father came from Ireland, they were what was known at the time as "bog Irish".

 
apart from anything else, one of his crackpot schemes is a land tax, depending on size of garden you could end up paying £4k in council tax so as I have just bought a house with a large garden.... hmmmm let me see.

 
So I live in a two bed maisonette and have a large garden, I will have to pay more than the eight people living in a four bed house with a tiny garden? 

What if you don't have a garden? 

Sounds a bit random, they do need to re-band  council tax though.

 
Ok....

So, go say you go and vote tory...

What have they stated they want to do???? Errrm. it is one of their stated aims that by 2020 local government will be "fully self funding"

That means social care, schools, police, and the rest of it, will all have to be funded locally.

Now, what you think is going to happen to your council tax???

Will make any "land tax" seem a pittance in comparison....

john...

Here is a bit of a link to it. [this is just the first one I found, there will most likely be loads more]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/17/councils-face-billions-more-budget-cuts-april-england-local-authorities-funding-settlement

 
Ok....

So, go say you go and vote tory...

What have they stated they want to do???? Errrm. it is one of their stated aims that by 2020 local government will be "fully self funding"

That means social care, schools, police, and the rest of it, will all have to be funded locally.

Now, what you think is going to happen to your council tax???

Will make any "land tax" seem a pittance in comparison....

john...


WHAT would we need the government for then? 

I cannot speak for everyone but I can't keep going the way things are and we need a change.

 
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