Need To Add Power To My Store My Store Cupboard

Andy100 · Apr 30, 2014

Hello,

We want to put our TV on a different wall in our living room, but that side or the wall has no power sockets, we also want to put the TV DVD, Xbox etc away in a large cupbad by our stairs and this is where the nearest power socket is. This is what I wanted to do, but am not sure if it is allowed:

1.) I believe the socket it part of the ring so can I create a spur off this into the cupboard to where I can add an extension lead to house all of my tv kit?

2.) I have a 10m TV Power cable and some thin HDMI cables is it ok to hide these behind the plasterboard where I wil hang the TV to all the way to this new socket that I want to put in? My wife (yeah I know) does not want the cables showing once the TV is on the wall.

Thanks

Badger · Apr 30, 2014

youd be better to hide a new socket behind the tv and extend the ring main wiring to new sockets for dvd etc and onto the tv, this would mean running 2 cables to continue the ring not 1 as a spur.

Andy100 · Apr 30, 2014

Thanks, but theoritically I could also do it my way and I am allowed to put the TV power behind the plasterboard?

Badger · Apr 30, 2014

well you cant double spur which is what you end up doing my proffessional advise as an electrician to niceic registered standards is either extend the ring main wiring correctly or get a proffessional in to do the job as cutting corners is not the right thing to do .

if you are thinking of putting the flex with a connection on it to tv behind plaster board then no i dont think it will comply as the flex is not a installation cable

Andy™ · Apr 30, 2014

Badger said:
well you cant double spur which is what you end up doing my proffessional advise as an electrician to niceic registered standards is either extend the ring main wiring correctly or get a proffessional in to do the job as cutting corners is not the right thing to do .

if you are thinking of putting the flex with a connection on it to tv behind plaster board then no i dont think it will comply as the flex is not a installation cable

or someone with one of the many other providers, or simply someone competent

Badger · Apr 30, 2014

id agree with andy in that it wouldnt have to be nic as long as its someone qualified and competent to do the job correctly and test it properly.

NozSpark · Apr 30, 2014

Normally the power lead to TVs etc are only 2 core and would not be suitable for burying in a wall... as its been said by others... itd be better with a socket behind the tv

Andy™ · Apr 30, 2014

NozSpark said:
Normally the power lead to TVs etc are only 2 core and would not be suitable for burying in a wall...

especially when you decide to replace the TV

Andy100 · Apr 30, 2014

Thanks guys, I will get a pro in to put a socket behind the TV area, not sure what I will be quoted on that.

Regarding the TV aerial, SKy Coax and HDMI cables these are fine to put behind the plasterboard ?

Andy™ · Apr 30, 2014

yes, but keep them away from the mains cable to reduce interference

ProDave · Apr 30, 2014

Get a pro to do it.

Power and socket behind the tv. Make sure you have the tv AND the wall bracket before he comes. With modern ultra slim tv's and ultra slim brackets, you often have to choose exactly where to put the socket with extreme care, otherwise the plug will stick out too far.

Get him to bury a hdmi cable AND at least one coax cable from behind the tv to the cupboard.

then you can put the sky box in the cupboard out of sight. connected to the tv via the hdmi cable for the picture, and the coax cable for remote control of the sky box via a sky eye. If yours is one of the latest sky HD boxes that doesn't have the RF outputs built in, you will also need to buy a sky IO sync unit to plug into the sky box to replicate the RF out socket for the sky eye to plug into.

If you have more than one sky box (multirroom) then you will also need a telephone socket in the cupboard as all sky multiroom boxes must be connected to the phone line.

you will also want a network connection to the cupboard to use on demand iptv services.

that should cover it.

It's NOT a trivial matter just to hang the tv on the wall and get everything working without anything being seen.

If you have other stuff like DVD players then you need more hdmi cables. and to control more stuff remotely you would be better off with a generic remote control extender like the Powermid for example.

Andy100 · Apr 30, 2014

Thanks! Sorry for my silly subject title just noticed and can't edit it.

Yeah I aim to put 3 thin HDMI cables, TV coax cable and a CAT6 network cable behind the wall, as for sourcing the electrical feed and shortest distance there is a plug socket about 3-4 metres away, thing is it is over the other side of the doorway. I just had a builder guy round for some other work and he said the easiest way would be to put the cables along the ground, but the floor is concrete, he said just cut a strip out with an angle grinder which would only need to be about 1-2 metres long and to be honest does look like a good idea, I could put all the cables in there (interference?) but I guess I would need some sort of mental trunking to sit flush with the floor?

I will ask an electrician though.

Thanks

NozSpark · Apr 30, 2014

Your builder might be good at building, but he knows naff all about electrics

SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH · Apr 30, 2014

Andy100 said:
Thanks! Sorry for my silly subject title just noticed and can't edit it.

Yeah I aim to put 3 thin HDMI cables, TV coax cable and a CAT6 network cable behind the wall, as for sourcing the electrical feed and shortest distance there is a plug socket about 3-4 metres away, thing is it is over the other side of the doorway. I just had a builder guy round for some other work and he said the easiest way would be to put the cables along the ground, but the floor is concrete, he said just cut a strip out with an angle grinder which would only need to be about 1-2 metres long and to be honest does look like a good idea, I could put all the cables in there (interference?) but I guess I would need some sort of mental trunking to sit flush with the floor?

I will ask an electrician though.

Thanks

Mental trunking ? :slap

Andy100 · May 1, 2014

I think he has worked with a lot of electricians over the years and seen many ideas.

Mental trunking (doh!)

As you are the pros then, would I just need to angle grind a small channel enough for some flush metal trunking to house the power and the TV cables?

Thanks

Apache · May 1, 2014

g0nz0uk said:
As you are the pros then, would I just need to angle grind a small channel enough for some flush metal trunking to house the power and the TV cables?

Do you have a wife? Have you ever used an angle grinder indoors?

steptoe · May 1, 2014

Apache said:
Do you have a wife? Have you ever used an angle grinder indoors?

oh yes,

do that once and she will have the gardener making a new patio :|

SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH · May 1, 2014

Apache said:
Do you have a wife? Have you ever used an angle grinder indoors?

Are you suggesting she talks her way through the slab ]

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